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Re: Blogging Is Not Dead

#101

Post by redis_mlc »

coding123 wrote: post #66
vinceguidry wrote: post #31

A blogger I used to follow, Steve Pavlina, shut down his forums like in 2011 after 5 years of running them stating that they were always completely irrelevant to his biz model. He's still posting to his blog, daily, having started in 2004. Still going strong after 15 years.

Nice, thanks for pointing this out. I am amazed by the quality of writing! Nice random nugget: https://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2020/05/herd-stupidity/ > This isn’t a situation where you should look to the masses for guidance. When you see idiotic behavior, don’t let the fact that everyone else seems fine with it persuade you that it’s probably okay. Stupid behavior that’s popular is still stupid. A bar full of idio…

Prophetic ... applies to the corona lockdown perfectly.

Re: Blogging Is Not Dead

#102

Post by type0 »

prebrov wrote: post #84
filmgirlcw wrote: post #53

Blogging isn't dead but blog discovery basically is. Fifteen years ago (through about 2009, I would say -- about the time Facebook demonstrably took over MySpace), there were tons of services and startups built around blog discovery. And even into the early 2010s, Tumblr was still a thriving community that paid host to many different different subcultures and demographics (whereas today, Tumblr is largely fandom). Bu…

Missing the Mobile boat is a major blow to blogging, the way I see it. Self-hosted blogging had passed on the format of ad-hoc notes while on the move, and basically ignored the entire category of mobile content creation. It’s odd and sad to see that the desktop-first authoring trend is actually getting re-enforced these days in indie blogging community, as the tools are getting less and less mobile-friendly (another…

You don't mean microblogging right? I have yet to see a good written blog composed from a mobile phone.

Re: Blogging Is Not Dead

#103

Post by type0 »

It is kinda dead, not in a way BBS is dead, or even IRC. Anecdotally less and less blogs enable comments or curate the comment spam. I even see some HN users advice their readers to use this site for comments where there previously had a comments section. Certain Disqus'ting services did not help this blogging demise.

Re: Blogging Is Not Dead

#104

Post by onli »

njkleiner wrote: post #99
onli wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Webmentions don't exist for that long. It's unlikely you had to disable them ages ago. But they are basically trackbacks and it's easy to conflate them. That's also something I should repeat. As someone involved in an active blog engine project for many years now, webmentions annoyed me. They seemingly ignored that trackbacks existed and had already solved the issues webmentions now solve again. They should have been…

They were never really supposed to be interoperable with pingback from what I can tell, see the reasons here[0]. You're right in the sense that it's a classic case of , but FYI there is a pingback to Webmention converter now[1]. [0]: https://indieweb.org/Webmention-faq#Why_webmention_instead_o... [1]: https://webmention.io/#forwarding

Pingbacks I understood, xmlrpc was a mistake. Trackbacks on the other hand... That's the FAQ that annoyed me the most (just didn't see it again when writing the comment above), as if trackbacks had no link verification in modern blogging engines.

It's great that the pingback conversion exists now, one issue less :)

Re: Blogging Is Not Dead

#105

Post by DJHenk »

elliekelly wrote: post #76
hombre_fatal wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a weird double standard. People say they miss blogs of yesteryear (like in the HN submission in TFA) as if they don't still exist. And then people hold up made-for-ads spamsites, like you, and go "see? blogs are dead!" Why not use the same standard of yesteryear and find some good blogs. My thoughts on this topic is that everyone who says they miss blogs just stopped looking for them. Our internet usage patter…

> Our internet usage patterns have changed. Blogs still exist but we just stay in our Reddit/HN bubble and assume it's just wasteland outside of it. I agree, but I also... don’t really know how to look for them anymore? Which I know sounds silly. Thinking back to some of my favorite blogs that I read in the early 2000s I found them via IRL word of mouth, Asking Jeeves random stuff, links from message boards, and inte…

A good way is to pay attention to where the linked articles on HN/Reddit are published. A few months ago, I made a habit of searching for an RSS feed whenever I read an article that I liked. Searching is the right word here, usually I have do View Source and search for 'rss' or 'atom'. If there is a link, I'll add it to my reader. Sometimes the feed link is not present on every page of the site.

It will be a slow start, because the more interesting and personal blogs don't update daily. It takes time to write a good article and the good ones also wait until they have something interesting to write an article about. But over a couple of months, I already have over 70 feeds in there and now opening the reader to see what is new is a fun activity.

Pro-tip: it is hidden well, but one can also follow Youtube users and channels with RSS and avoid the spammy front page.

Re: Blogging Is Not Dead

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Post by DJHenk »

redis_mlc wrote: post #100
raindropm wrote: post #92

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Everything ruined when money get involves. It always dilute the value of something into money making machine 'trend' for some get rich quick marketer, they milk it dry(or try to), often in a spammy, tasteless way, then move on to(ruin) something new. What a shallow society we live in.

> Everything ruined when money get involves. Actually, you won't see much content if the creators don't get paid. So the problem is how to get money to them. Patreon is still one of the very few success stories here, depositing over 90% of contributions directly to creators.

> Actually, you won't see much content if the creators don't get paid.

This is definitely not true. There are plenty of people who like to share their work without any monetary reward (be it either direct or indirect, building their personal 'brand' etc.), but who do it just for the fun of sharing and communicating with each other.

The extreme focus on startups, earning money with your special thing, etc. that is common here is not representative for the whole world. There are plenty of people who can do without that. At least, it used to be that way. I'll admit that this 'get rich online' culture that is prevalent here is spreading more and more to the rest of society.

Re: Blogging Is Not Dead

#107

Post by shadowprofile77 »

ghaff wrote: post #39
munchbunny wrote: post #33

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Do you have any examples of good cooking and baking blogs? I've been looking, but as you say, SEO is a problem for organic discovery for me.

There are tons. Food52 SpruceEats Tiny Urban Kitchen Serious Eats A lot depends on your food and style preferences.

And every single one of these has regularly appeared for me on page one google searches when I look up something like "Recipe for X" or "Best X recipe" So maybe Google search hasn't quite yet been completely murdered by SEO for garbage as some of the comments here claim.

Re: Blogging Is Not Dead

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Post by m-localhost »

filmgirlcw wrote: post #53

Blogging isn't dead but blog discovery basically is. Fifteen years ago (through about 2009, I would say -- about the time Facebook demonstrably took over MySpace), there were tons of services and startups built around blog discovery. And even into the early 2010s, Tumblr was still a thriving community that paid host to many different different subcultures and demographics (whereas today, Tumblr is largely fandom). Bu…

Tumblr is imho still the best blogging platform. Wonderful posting experience on mobile. Great API. Actively development. Great inspiration (scroll through vintage photos, art, music, funny stuff and nudes on one dashboard). The only thing that sucks is that public blogs are hidden behind that cookie consent wall. For that I built my blog with php and just query their API. Works well!

Re: Blogging Is Not Dead

#109

Post by taejo »

DJHenk wrote: post #105
elliekelly wrote: post #76

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> Our internet usage patterns have changed. Blogs still exist but we just stay in our Reddit/HN bubble and assume it's just wasteland outside of it. I agree, but I also... don’t really know how to look for them anymore? Which I know sounds silly. Thinking back to some of my favorite blogs that I read in the early 2000s I found them via IRL word of mouth, Asking Jeeves random stuff, links from message boards, and inte…

A good way is to pay attention to where the linked articles on HN/Reddit are published. A few months ago, I made a habit of searching for an RSS feed whenever I read an article that I liked. Searching is the right word here, usually I have do View Source and search for 'rss' or 'atom'. If there is a link, I'll add it to my reader. Sometimes the feed link is not present on every page of the site. It will be a slow sta…

I'm curious what reader you use. I almost never have to do the searching you describe, I just paste the main URL into my reader app (The Old Reader, https://theoldreader.com) and let it find the feed.

Re: Blogging Is Not Dead

#110

Post by xwdv »

MattGaiser wrote: post #25
JoshTriplett wrote: post #16

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> There's a reason you can sell a Reddit account with a ton of karma and activity for a decent buck. What does "a decent buck" amount to, these days? How much does it take to get people to sell their reputation to an unethical marketing firm?

$16-$20. https://www.playerup.com/accounts/redditaccount/ Not a lot for Westerners, but that is a week of wages in a place like Ghana. Decent pay for re-posting popular content.

Any similar place where you can buy or sell hackernews accounts? Trying to figure out how these downvote farms get accounts at scale.
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