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Re: Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas

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Post by dylan604 »

BurningFrog wrote: post #96
eloff wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the rule with Elon Musk is all his estimates are extremely optimistic and you need to multiply them by two or three to get closer to reality. But I'm sure it serves a purpose in giving his employees an aggressive target to aim at. Even if they miss it, at least they probably got there sooner.

No. Unrealistic schedules don't help getting anything done. I hope they have real plans for the real work, while the CEO throws out PR bombs.

"First, I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the Earth."

Seems to have worked

Re: Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas

#102

Post by epistasis »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #95

Isn't this just Elon Musk getting into one of his superfluous fights, only this time California being the somewhat-random opponent? Musk has been completely unhinged the last few weeks, and it doesn't seem to be wise making such large decisions in anger, especially considering the reason for his anger is, even if justified, unlikely to reoccur. I'm quite the Musk fanboy, but he's always had this very strange anger is…

I'm already looking at the competitors to the Model 3 that are coming out in the next few years. I have loved this car, but Musk is toxic and I don't want to be finding him anymore. I know maybe 5 other people with Teslas, and two others have already said they're looking to switch too.

Part of the Tesla story was that it could be a California pride thing. When Musk makes the state his enemy, and acts like an idiot, and is simultaneously an absolute publicity whore that claims credit for all sort of work that is not his, well, he had better be ready to accept the consequences for acting like a traitor in a war.

Re: Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas

#104

Post by AnthonyMouse »

xur17 wrote: post #93
pvarangot wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a chance, I worked with similarly regulated providers in the US.

CA is more lax than TX? I find that surprising.

https://workinjurysource.com/workplace-injury-statistics-201...

> States with Non-Fatal Workplace Illness and Injury Rates Above the National Average:

> California

> States with Non-Fatal Workplace Illness and Injury Rates Below the National Average:

> Texas

It's completely possible that Texas is less adversarial/bureaucratic or similar than California, but whatever they're doing is working.

Though it could be cultural differences. Government regulations are often half good best practices and half harmful backwards nonsense. A culture that only calls OSHA for not following best practices even after having it pointed out and not for not implementing backwards nonsense could pretty easily end up with a better safety record than one that prioritizes strict compliance over actual safety.

Re: Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas

#105

Post by sangnoir »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #95

Isn't this just Elon Musk getting into one of his superfluous fights, only this time California being the somewhat-random opponent? Musk has been completely unhinged the last few weeks, and it doesn't seem to be wise making such large decisions in anger, especially considering the reason for his anger is, even if justified, unlikely to reoccur. I'm quite the Musk fanboy, but he's always had this very strange anger is…

> Going full alt-right MAGA is going to cut his customer base in half, at least in the US and Europe.

Putting my best effort to be charitable here: he could be opening up a whole new market that is opposed to tree-huggers, fuel efficiency and Priuses. Texas loves trucks, the Cybertruck will be henceforth known as the Freedom Cybertruck and the Texas Edition will come with a complementary "Come and take it" sticker.

"Southern Heritage" flag interior design & center console wallpaper will be a paid extra.

Re: Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas

#106

Post by sangnoir »

dylan604 wrote: post #101
BurningFrog wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Unrealistic schedules don't help getting anything done. I hope they have real plans for the real work, while the CEO throws out PR bombs.

"First, I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the Earth." Seems to have worked

Once.

Re: Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas

#107

Post by reaperducer »

Hours after Electrek's story ran, three news organizations—TechCrunch, CNBC, and the Associated Press—all published stories stating that Tesla was still considering Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Tulsa is a better choice for one reason: Being able to say "Tesla Tulsa." Or "The Tulsa Teslas." Or "I wanna test a Tulsa Tesla."

Maybe instead of a tax break, the city could offer to change its name to Tesla. Cities have changed names for sillier reasons.

Re: Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas

#108

Post by rubicon33 »

epistasis wrote: post #102
IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #95

Isn't this just Elon Musk getting into one of his superfluous fights, only this time California being the somewhat-random opponent? Musk has been completely unhinged the last few weeks, and it doesn't seem to be wise making such large decisions in anger, especially considering the reason for his anger is, even if justified, unlikely to reoccur. I'm quite the Musk fanboy, but he's always had this very strange anger is…

I'm already looking at the competitors to the Model 3 that are coming out in the next few years. I have loved this car, but Musk is toxic and I don't want to be finding him anymore. I know maybe 5 other people with Teslas, and two others have already said they're looking to switch too. Part of the Tesla story was that it could be a California pride thing. When Musk makes the state his enemy, and acts like an idiot, a…

"Part of the Tesla story was that it could be a California pride thing."

Lol.

Can humans ever drop the tribalism, I wonder? To be fair, Musk is totally playing the same game.

I've held out for a long time, denouncing both sides as stupid. But I'm getting tired of seeing everyone else just say fuck it, grab a beer, a bible, a shotgun, and go full blown alt-right. Or say fuck it, grab a cell phone camera, and go full blown virtue signaling gotcha culture alt-left.

Seems like everyone needs to play on some team, and needs somebody to hate these days.

I just want a cool car that doesn't pollute the planet, because I believe thats a shitty thing to do. If you don't feel the same way, it's all good brother.

Re: Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas

#110

Post by dpau »

sangnoir wrote: post #105
IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #95

Isn't this just Elon Musk getting into one of his superfluous fights, only this time California being the somewhat-random opponent? Musk has been completely unhinged the last few weeks, and it doesn't seem to be wise making such large decisions in anger, especially considering the reason for his anger is, even if justified, unlikely to reoccur. I'm quite the Musk fanboy, but he's always had this very strange anger is…

> Going full alt-right MAGA is going to cut his customer base in half, at least in the US and Europe. Putting my best effort to be charitable here: he could be opening up a whole new market that is opposed to tree-huggers, fuel efficiency and Priuses. Texas loves trucks, the Cybertruck will be henceforth known as the Freedom Cybertruck and the Texas Edition will come with a complementary "Come and take it" sticker. "…

this is an awesome take- musk has been playing 4d chess all along, getting hard-core conservatives to buy into renewable energy..
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