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Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

#101

Post by chrisyeah » Thu, May 14, 2020, 6:57 AM UTC

A great next iteration would be to let users fold/unfold those groups, so that you only have one visible "tab" per group in the top bar.

This would really help the "tab collecters" (like me, who had to close 78 tabs some weeks ago).

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

#102

Post by renewiltord » Thu, May 14, 2020, 6:58 AM UTC

maciekmm wrote: post #90

akersten wrote: post #23

Neat, and works well for the toy example with 4 tabs open. I don't really think it would work as well for the "tab collectors" as they think. They seem to be aware of this too, since none of the screenshots in the post have anywhere near what I would consider a significant amount of tabs open. I use the tree style tab extension on Firefox[0], which I cannot live without. Horizontal tabs become useless after about 15…

Shameless plug. I made the ContainerTabsSidebar firefox addon[0], which is inspired by the TST. It groups tabs based on firefox privacy containers, which means every container has an isolated cookie store. I'm a tab hoarder and developed it to work for such "use-case". It's very similar to the groups presented, but displays tabs vertically. [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/container-tab...

Very cool. I use Container Tabs so I can be logged into multiple AWS accounts simultaneously and this will be cool because they're sort of contexts. I wish I could see whole-desktop contexts but I'll settle for this.

I'm going to try out your thing.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

#103

Post by bangonkeyboard » Thu, May 14, 2020, 6:59 AM UTC

saagarjha wrote: post #17

bangonkeyboard wrote: post #16

Why doesn't my down arrow key work on this page?

blog.google breaks it, as has been noted before: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22949003

Found it. In https://www.blog.google/static/blogv2/js/all.js?version=4.3

  {key:"onKeyDown",value:function(t){var e=t.preventDefault;this.isToggle(document.activeElement)?(e(),!this.header.isKebabOpen&&this.header.openKebab(),this.getFirstLink().focus()):this.isLastLink(document.activeElement)?this.isLastLink(document.activeElement)&&e():(e(),this.focusNextLink())}}

There's a logic error in the nested ternaries: event.preventDefault() is called in every branch.

Fixed:

  {key:"onKeyDown",value:function(t){var e=t.preventDefault;this.isToggle(document.activeElement)?(e(),!this.header.isKebabOpen&&this.header.openKebab(),this.getFirstLink().focus()):this.isLink(document.activeElement)&&(e(),!this.isLastLink(document.activeElement)&&this.focusNextLink())}}

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

#104

Post by sergeykish » Thu, May 14, 2020, 7:04 AM UTC

qubex wrote: post #26

What I find hilarious about tabs is that it’s basically a full reimplementation of a multitasking interface within a MDI (Multiple Document In Window) context: we came up with windows for different applications and for different documents within that application, and then for the browser we went back and revised the conventional wisdom.

1996 - Opera 2 had MDI

1997 - tabs first appeared in SimulBrowse

2000 - Opera 4 added tabs

2005 - Opera 8 removed MDI

They tried, maybe MDI is not that good.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

#105

Post by romwell » Thu, May 14, 2020, 7:04 AM UTC

Great, yet another Opera browser feature finally becoming mainstream! It only took a decade[1].

[1]https://www.practicalecommerce.com/Opera-11-Launches-Tab-Sta...

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

#106

Post by 0mn1 » Thu, May 14, 2020, 7:06 AM UTC

maciekmm wrote: post #90

akersten wrote: post #23

Neat, and works well for the toy example with 4 tabs open. I don't really think it would work as well for the "tab collectors" as they think. They seem to be aware of this too, since none of the screenshots in the post have anywhere near what I would consider a significant amount of tabs open. I use the tree style tab extension on Firefox[0], which I cannot live without. Horizontal tabs become useless after about 15…

Shameless plug. I made the ContainerTabsSidebar firefox addon[0], which is inspired by the TST. It groups tabs based on firefox privacy containers, which means every container has an isolated cookie store. I'm a tab hoarder and developed it to work for such "use-case". It's very similar to the groups presented, but displays tabs vertically. [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/container-tab...

Shameless plug, but Vivaldi does this and so much more natively...since beta however many years ago. Haven't touched firefox since.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

#107

Post by OJFord » Thu, May 14, 2020, 7:06 AM UTC

maciekmm wrote: post #90

akersten wrote: post #23

Neat, and works well for the toy example with 4 tabs open. I don't really think it would work as well for the "tab collectors" as they think. They seem to be aware of this too, since none of the screenshots in the post have anywhere near what I would consider a significant amount of tabs open. I use the tree style tab extension on Firefox[0], which I cannot live without. Horizontal tabs become useless after about 15…

Shameless plug. I made the ContainerTabsSidebar firefox addon[0], which is inspired by the TST. It groups tabs based on firefox privacy containers, which means every container has an isolated cookie store. I'm a tab hoarder and developed it to work for such "use-case". It's very similar to the groups presented, but displays tabs vertically. [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/container-tab...

Is there any other restriction/benefit in containers? I use the 'first party isolate' config option, and never really need e.g. different accounts logged in to same site, so as far as I'm aware there's no point?

I recently switched from an unmaintained tabs sidebar to 'Sidebery' which is quite nice in an 'overriding UI like it's made by Adobe' sort of way, which has got me using trees, and even tried containers (since unlike previous one it supports changing them and shows a coloured dot for which a tab is in) but I don't think it's gaining me anything.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

#108

Post by [deleted] » Thu, May 14, 2020, 7:07 AM UTC

wyldfire wrote: post #2

> tab collectors who have...significantly more Guilty as charged. I have a hard time saying goodbye to some of those tabs sometimes. Tab minimalists react in horror. Meh -- they're missing out. > Now, with a simple right click, you can group your tabs together and label them with a custom name and color. I'm afraid that this might just free enough pixels to allow me to collect yet more tabs. ;)

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Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

#109

Post by greggman3 » Thu, May 14, 2020, 7:07 AM UTC

I just wish the OSes would alt-tab through all tabs in all apps instead of just top level windows. Yes, other forms of tab organization might be useful but my productivity would go up more if I could more easily swap between the last 2-8 things I did in a consistent way.

As it is sometimes alt tab works, some times it doesn't. It all depends on what the last few things I did were and is therefore infuriatingly inconsistent.

I tried "Witch" on MacOS to fix this but it's got its own set of issues since it's having to hack around to do its job.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

#110

Post by 0mn1 » Thu, May 14, 2020, 7:07 AM UTC

If you want to use Chrome(ium), but also have modern features and privacy focus, just use Vivaldi.