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Re: Flight Attendants and Covid-19

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Post by brenden2 »

ISL wrote: post #7

The days of carefree travel will return. It'll be a while, but it will be back. In early March, looking for a park to sit quietly with my thoughts in the sunshine but away from others, I found myself in a local cemetery. Alone, but not far from a great many people. Seattle's a pretty young place on the scale of things. I was surprised to find that our local graveyard had a substantial contingent that had lived throug…

This is just fear mongering. Life will return to normal. Lots of people swore they'd never fly after 9/11 and yet things did recover.

Re: Flight Attendants and Covid-19

#102

Post by GordonS »

stormdennis wrote: post #77
pinkfoot wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And if China gets a secondary wave of infection from negligence in the USA? Then what? The Treasury is going is going to cut China a cheque?

Not unless the USA tries to deceive them like what China did originally

The president of the United States has claimed the virus was a hoax, that people might cure themselves by injecting disinfectant, and I've forgotten what else. How does that fit in?

Re: Flight Attendants and Covid-19

#103

Post by antiterra »

krisvage wrote: post #84
tyingq wrote: post #48

"That woman by the way was traveling by herself with a dog kennel, a baby, a car seat and two carry-on bags, and yet the airport was in the wrong for not having anything or anyone ready to assist her as she deplaned" I actually think it's reasonable that the woman expects more from the airport. They levy very high margin charges for landing, departure, parking, rent for vendors, and so on. Reasonable service seems ex…

I think that it is reasonable to expect the woman to check in the car seat and at least one of the carry-ons as baggage. I also think it is reasonable for the flight attendant and other passengers to expect the airline to enforce their rules on this, although maybe with more leniency now, but do not then expect extra service for breaking common curtesy.

In addition to other comments about the car seat actually being used on the flight:

Checking (at bag drop) a car seat risks invisibly compromising the protection it affords. Gate checking is likely better.

Re: Flight Attendants and Covid-19

#104

Post by jfk13 »

stormdennis wrote: post #77
pinkfoot wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And if China gets a secondary wave of infection from negligence in the USA? Then what? The Treasury is going is going to cut China a cheque?

Not unless the USA tries to deceive them like what China did originally

In which court do you expect these kind of claims to be litigated, and how will its judgements be enforced?

Re: Flight Attendants and Covid-19

#106

Post by nradov »

_0w8t wrote: post #92
icegreentea2 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where did you get the 6 month figure from? It's true we really don't know how things will pan out long term, but we know that there are lot's of possibilities that all work out to something that's not awful in the long term. For example, we already produce and distribute an annual vaccine on the scale of billions (the flu). The flu also has tampering effectiveness on a pretty short time scale. The flu vaccine is also…

The flu vaccine efficiency is rather low, between 19% and 60% depending on the year, https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/effectiveness-studies.... But what is interesting is that the current lockdown in Norway killed the flu with season ending abruptly.

Those percentages don't tell the whole story. Even when the vaccine doesn't match the circulating strains closely enough to prevent infection, it typically mitigates symptom severity at least a little. For some patients that can be the difference between life and death.

Re: Flight Attendants and Covid-19

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Post by rootusrootus »

faizmokhtar wrote: post #80
ISL wrote: post #7

The days of carefree travel will return. It'll be a while, but it will be back. In early March, looking for a park to sit quietly with my thoughts in the sunshine but away from others, I found myself in a local cemetery. Alone, but not far from a great many people. Seattle's a pretty young place on the scale of things. I was surprised to find that our local graveyard had a substantial contingent that had lived throug…

Personally, I think it will have permanent effects on airport operations. Some of the steps like social distancing, wearing masks, temperature checks, sanitizers, etc will remain even after the vaccine is found.

I'd be surprised. Social distancing is inconvenient, masks are uncomfortable, etc. Things will go back to normal.

Re: Flight Attendants and Covid-19

#108

Post by walterbell »

kazagistar wrote: post #105
walterbell wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

High-risk groups can take extra actions for defense, early detection & early treatment.

If they have that luxury based on class. Otherwise they are hosed.

One of the most effective defenses is Vitamin D, which is free if you go outside on a sunny day. Bonus fresh air. Dark-skinned people may benefit from (cheap) supplements, depending on location.

A disproportionate number of US/UK severe cases are dark-skinned people. Have you seen research into the cause?

Sadly, Vitamin D does not have a pharma marketing budget to convince people that they would be hosed without expensive, emerging, and relatively unproven designer drugs OR addressing Vitamin D deficiency in northern climates.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23119949

Re: Flight Attendants and Covid-19

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Post by rootusrootus »

caseysoftware wrote: post #97
faizmokhtar wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I think it will have permanent effects on airport operations. Some of the steps like social distancing, wearing masks, temperature checks, sanitizers, etc will remain even after the vaccine is found.

And scary side thing to consider.. how many corona-virus vaccines have been developed and deployed to date? Even after SARS (another corona virus), there were a bunch of candidates and some preliminary successes but none actually made it to market because interest (aka funding) subsided. The same over and over again. As of Jan 1, there were zero. People predicting "we'll have one in a year!" is based on hope and othe…

There are over 100 vaccines in development, several have completed phase 1 trials, and one is actually in production already so it will be available when it completes phase 3.

We didn't need vaccines for SARS or MERS because they were both gone pretty quickly and the number of affected individuals was never high enough to warrant completing the expensive testing required to get approval for a vaccine.

Re: Flight Attendants and Covid-19

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Post by nradov »

Mvandenbergh wrote: post #55
stormdennis wrote: post #9

It's reactionary to say it but China has to pay a price for this, otherwise what's to stop it happening again? Edit :I've been completely hammered on this topic so I won't make any more comments. Hope that's ok

What price did the world exact from the because of the 1918 or Mexico for the swine flu pandemics? Ok, so we only discovered for sure that the 1918 flu came from the US recently, but swine flu we knew right away. Also, China has paid an enormous price for this. Do you think that Chinese administrators are looking at what happened and saying, "golly, we got off lightly here, no need to make any changes". Also: claimin…

While the most likely source of the 1918 flu was a pig in the US, that is by no means definitively proven. Other possibilities remain. We'll probably never know for sure.
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