Japan to Draw Up UFO Encounter Protocols After U.S. Footage • Hacker News Board

Re: Japan to Draw Up UFO Encounter Protocols After U.S. Footage

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Post by beaner » Mon, May 04, 2020, 7:51 PM UTC

Johnjonjoan wrote: post #90

autokad wrote: post #83

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i dont understand how the background behind the 'balloon' could be moving so fast. I dont think it was a ufo, but I definitely do not think it was a balloon.

Imagine the balloon is 2km up and the plane is 8km up. The balloon is stationary and the plane moving fast. The plane centres a camera on the balloon and maintains the centre. As the plane flies over the balloon it is going to need to move the camera to keep it centred. When it does this the balloon remains centered (stationary) whilst the ground appears to move under it. However its just that the angle the camera is…

But in the moments when the camera is at rest while the operator is trying to focus, the ocean is moving slowly in the opposite direction as the object, meaning that the jet is flying in the same direction as the object. If the object were static, then upon lock-on, the ocean in the background would slow down or reverse direction. What we see instead is that the ocean background speeds up, meaning the object is traveling faster than the jet in the direction the jet is going.

Re: Japan to Draw Up UFO Encounter Protocols After U.S. Footage

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Post by javert » Mon, May 04, 2020, 8:50 PM UTC

booleandilemma wrote: post #64

javert wrote: post #55

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> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20019375 This is an amazing explanation. If this is the explanation, why didn't the Pentagon just say so?

We’re in the middle of a national crisis 20x worse than 9/11, and they need something to distract the populace with?

But they don't need to distract the population from the coronavirus crisis.

Re: Japan to Draw Up UFO Encounter Protocols After U.S. Footage

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Post by afpx » Mon, May 04, 2020, 9:34 PM UTC

lend000 wrote: post #26

MarcScott wrote: post #22

I thought this was a pretty good explanation of the 3 sightings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7jcBGLIpus

Mick West's explanation of "Go Fast" seems highly plausible (the video could be reproduced by a weather balloon, with parallax producing the difficulty of getting a radar lock and the appearance of fast movement). But for the other two, even ignoring witness testimony, it seems like grasping at straws to fit a narrative to a predetermined conclusion.

So... we should be able to reproduce the phenomenon?

Re: Japan to Draw Up UFO Encounter Protocols After U.S. Footage

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Post by highlysyntropic » Mon, May 04, 2020, 10:37 PM UTC

simonh wrote: post #77

kart23 wrote: post #52

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It doesnt say anything about the radar readings recieved, or the pilots reactions. You dont think these navy pilots know what planes look like on their radar and thermals? Mutiple ship and aircraft radar picked up consistent readings, movements, speeds that simply weren't possible. Personally, I think it's some black-budget government project that somebody wasn't supposed to reveal. It might be from us, it might be f…

>It doesnt say anything about the radar readings recieved, or the pilots reactions. To be fair, for the last video which shows telemetry data on the screen, he does explain what it means and how it shows that the object being tracked is actually stationary or moving very slowly. As for the highly trained professional pilot's reactions, check out this breakdown of that last video, in which the pilots are freaking out.…

So your idea is, that some YouTuber, who wasn't there, who doesn't have all the data, and who doesn't work with those advanced systems, somehow knows, from a low resolution video, how to correctly identify the objects, when the Pentagon, and the Navy, and the pilots, with all their experience and data, still are okay to call them unidentified?

That's a good one.

It's almost as if, the possibilities opened by it being unidentified are so scary (why?), you need to distort and pervert the normal faculties of reason and logic and kowtow to faith in a YouTube prophet who's gonna spin a nice story to make it all sound okay.

BTW, if you are feeling confident and like you can out-identify your defense forces, at least pick a theory that fits the data, rather than selectively ignoring inconvenient data.

I notice that all these prophets/conspiracy theorists, like Ms West and Mr Thunder, ignore that the aviators and radar tech have stated that there were fleets of these objects, coming in for days at a time, dropping from above 80kft to see level.

So fleets of weather balloons, space birds, or bird shit storms, that's really where you're going with this?

Good luck.