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No-code founders are on the rise. Are they making money?

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Re: No-code founders are on the rise. Are they making money?

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Would you consider something like Collibra https://www.collibra.com/ to be no-code? They seem to be exploding at the moment. How about SAP or Salesforce?

I can't tell from the front page but this appears to be a Business Intelligence tool?

Collibra is a data governance platform, which manages stuff like data cataloguing, authorization to data sources, tracing data provenance etc.

Re: No-code founders are on the rise. Are they making money?

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The first real low-code solution was a spreadsheet. Spreadsheets were what drove businesses to buy PCs in the early 80s. In the 90s, CASE (computer-automated software engineering) was a big thing. Powerbuilder was huge. Novell had one where you could draw a flowchart and fill in dialogs to make client-server apps... UI builders became common as language vendors added graphical IDEs to their game. In the 00's we had a…

Love the historical context here...

"Lots of successful products and fortunes made with No Code and low code."

What are some examples?

Re: No-code founders are on the rise. Are they making money?

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post #5

I don’t really understand what “no code” is. You can put up a storefront and conduct business without writing a line of code, simply by adding plug ins to Wordpress, calling out to stripe etc. The result is somewhat templatized and slightly generic looking but that’s great: your value comes from the content, as the author correctly describes, and the visitor will presumably understand navigation etc. This kind of pro…

No-code solutions are like Glide [1], which lets you create a mobile app using Google Sheets as a starting point and then assembling interface elements/flow logic in a designer.

I think there's value in no-code even for seasoned programmers, especially for quick front-end work. The front-end world is currently very fragmented. Us backend folks are completely befuddled by all the options and frameworks that are out there (Angular, Vue, React, Oh jquery is out? Wait, there's a movement back to plain old Javascript? etc.).

Many of us just want to concentrate on building the backend, and use a tool to quickly mock up a CRUD interface or mobile app in order deploy quickly and iterate with customers.

[1] https://www.glideapps.com/

Re: No-code founders are on the rise. Are they making money?

#107
post #4

> Just imagine the same being true for coders: that 7 out of every 10 programmers you spotted at developer conferences or in the engineering departments of larger companies were really only making ends meet while starting their own businesses. this is not a great comparison...

I read this part three times, I do not understand what the point is trying to make?

Re: No-code founders are on the rise. Are they making money?

#108

No-code = code from another person

You wish, usually you still end up programming the thing, just with worse tools.

> You wish, usually you still end up programming the thing, just with worse tools.

This, exactly! I once was stuck under a manager that fully bought into the idea that BPMS systems would replace most enterprise development (or at least wanted me to think that way to work on his BPMS project). He said semi-technical BAs would be able to do all the work in the future, blah, blah, blah.

It wasn't true: we built what was asked for, but you had to be a developer to get within 10 feet of the thing. There were so many gotchas, and you had to code to implement anything that wasn't a toy. It was basically developed with shitty fake-Java and shitty fake-JSP with a lot of other shitty-fake technologies.

Re: No-code founders are on the rise. Are they making money?

#109

The first real low-code solution was a spreadsheet. Spreadsheets were what drove businesses to buy PCs in the early 80s. In the 90s, CASE (computer-automated software engineering) was a big thing. Powerbuilder was huge. Novell had one where you could draw a flowchart and fill in dialogs to make client-server apps... UI builders became common as language vendors added graphical IDEs to their game. In the 00's we had a…

Love the historical context here... "Lots of successful products and fortunes made with No Code and low code." What are some examples?

Were all of the examples leading up to that sentence not enough for you, or did you perhaps skip to the end?

Re: No-code founders are on the rise. Are they making money?

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dark Lang is doing the same, we almost did, but are using Cuelang for our take on this now

Cuelang looks interesting, but also seems like a language with a very specific use case. I don't understand Dark Lang's reasoning for using a custom language when they could have made an IDE.

What very specific use case? I have found Cue to be versatile and usable anywhere yaml / json / config is used or needs to be validated. I'm mainly focused on code generation with Cue as the input. https://github.com/hofstadter-io/hof
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