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> Furthermore, the cost (financially, mentally and legally (GDPR)) of running the site, no longer makes sense for me.
I don't really use IRC anymore but at the time I remember really hating loggers. Chats were informal and I really didn't like them showing up in google results and elsewhere. Not everything needs to be saved.
Yes, I agree. Lots(most?) of channels on freenode are explicitly not publicly logged anywhere, and the freenode staff are pretty helpful at helping chanops enforce this. None of the channels I help run have any public logs available.
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Unfortunately Facebook and Google also log everything. At least Facebook lets you delete your copy, but Google does not allow even this.
I kinda doubt that Facebook actually deletes, as opposed to setting a DB flag... weren't they caught logging comments that were typed in but then modified / deleted / not actually posted?
I just wanted to take a moment and share with the HN community that IRC is definitely very alive and kicking! There are great channels for thousands of amazing projects, communities and teams spread across so many great IRC Networks, from Freenode [1] to OFTC [2], to Rizon [3], to DALnet [4], to tildeverse [5], Snoonet [6], Quakenet [7], EFnet [8], IRCnet [9] among other networks [10]. IRC is no longer difficult to u…
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Yes, I agree. Lots(most?) of channels on freenode are explicitly not publicly logged anywhere, and the freenode staff are pretty helpful at helping chanops enforce this. None of the channels I help run have any public logs available.
Perhaps a naive question, but how do chanops enforce this? What's to stop someone lurking in a channel and publishing a log. You can't obviously connect an individual lurker to a log and busy channels have dozens of 24/7 clients connected.
I don't think that's necessarily true.
While I don't know if the IRC Server software supports it, there's no reason you couldn't encode some kind of unique tag into the stream of IRC messages sent to each client. Unless you were running two clients and diffing their logs you wouldn't notice.
It could be as simple as seeing additional events, or modified whois/client information on join/leave, or even completely fake client join/leaves.
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I would have shared the same sentiment. I never came across a logger, though, when I was still active on IRC. Are loggers a more recent (as in this millenium) development?
I would say chat history and asymmetrical scheduling for chat are expectations in this day and age, and the lack of them is one of the biggest reasons people find IRC irritating or difficult. (I ask a question, and if the person fit to answer it isn't logged in right now, it never gets even responded to.) Every fairly modern chat solution, Skype, Discord, Slack, etc. allows you to see messages while you were offline.…
So, I'm too young to have ever used IRC. This must be a biggish deal to make it #2 on HN homepage. But can someone put this in perspective of how big a deal this is? On a scale of 'Rando County Legacy ISP-provided email service' to 'Gmail' is shutting down, where does this lie? IRC is not email, etc. but again, never seen this community.
First of all, you're not too young for IRC, it's still out there! Lots of people! Lots of channels! Depending on your interests your usage could resemble a live-action Reddit. Second, I don't think this is necessarily a big deal, though I could imagine that channel users liked the convenience of having their channel logged for them. There may even have been an ersatz Slack use-case there that people could easily get…
I just wanted to take a moment and share with the HN community that IRC is definitely very alive and kicking! There are great channels for thousands of amazing projects, communities and teams spread across so many great IRC Networks, from Freenode [1] to OFTC [2], to Rizon [3], to DALnet [4], to tildeverse [5], Snoonet [6], Quakenet [7], EFnet [8], IRCnet [9] among other networks [10]. IRC is no longer difficult to u…
On AmigaOS, amirc (which many clients cloned the UI of) and wookiechat.
Even kolibriOS ships an irc client.
It's a nice, simple protocol that's human readable and imposes very little overhead on the clients.