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Google to Slow Hiring for Rest of 2020

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Re: Google to Slow Hiring for Rest of 2020

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

mkoryak wrote: post #86
nilkn wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A friend interviewed with Google a few years ago and the process took well over six months before he actually got an official offer. It really is amazing how slow they are.

Counter point: The time between my on site interview and hire date was 1 month and 1 day. I skipped the phone interview so the time from initial referral to offer was under a month. Having an internal reference may have helped, as did the fact that I told them I was actively interviewing and had offers.

Similar experience here. Having internal references seems to be very useful, not just for skipping the phone interview but for getting through the hiring committee. My start day is exactly one month after my interview, but even then that is because I put it back a week.

Re: Google to Slow Hiring for Rest of 2020

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Post by sytelus »

gnarbarian wrote: post #92
sytelus wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One has to think why the concept of employment is still considered like marriage that require such an extensive ultra-deep multi-level deliberations. Let's say you were local, why it shouldn't be possible to give someone on-the spot offer after half-day of interviews as well as let them go with, say 2 weeks of standard severance if things don't work out?

Bringing someone up to speed in a large complicated ecosystem is extremely expensive. They will have to invest months into you before you will be capable of contributing in a way that isn't a net loss and a drag on existing team members. At worst you pose a massive threat to the company/codebase. LOL i accidentally leaked all our secrets to china/apple/MS whoops.

But most of these companies/teams already employ massive numbers of contractors. They typically sign NDAs and often work on same code.

I've been on development teams which had contractors as 20% or more members. We had just couple of interviews and next-day offers for contractors while full timers went through multi-month process. Both worked on same code, often similarly complex tasks and used same on-boarding docs etc. One difference was that full timers were given more longer term tasks although, looking back, I feel many longer tasks simply became longer term because of tribal knowledge full timers developed and kept to themselves. The contractors were required to extensively document everything all the time :).

Re: Google to Slow Hiring for Rest of 2020

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Post by pm90 »

whoisjuan wrote: post #49
xenihn wrote: post #37

People on Blind are posting that it's more than just slowing.

It can't be more than a simple slow. This crisis decimated their revenues while increasing their huge subsidized operational costs like bandwidth. Take for instance YouTube. Just imagine the cost to operate the site increasing exponentially overnight (because of all the quarantined people) while their ad business goes down. You're in the worst possible situation for a business with a model that is heavily dependent o…

On the contrary they’re getting a lot more eyeballs so YT has never been in a better position. Advertisers can reach a large chunk of the populace through YT now.

When things go south is when consumers stop purchasing. The unemployment and cut in disposable income will have a massive effect on purchasing power... but the federal government is deficit spending like crazy. So... it’s not clear what the consumer market will look like just yet.

Re: Google to Slow Hiring for Rest of 2020

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Post by georgeburdell »

third_I wrote: post #90
babesh wrote: post #66

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That was the case in the past several recessions. The only question is the relative mix in each company. And then if this recession persists then more and more knives come out as people fight each other for jobs within each company. Many people behave like shit when their livelihoods are on the line. Fun times. Also this bloodletting is happening at several levels. The VCs are performing the same decimation to their…

That sounds like... exactly the reality of such times, indeed. Well worded. There is a question, each time, of concurrent or even deeper cycles coinciding. The last recession is often thought to have been a prime factor in the revolutions of 2011 (Arab Spring etc). Regardless of their eventual conclusion, the push is deemed to stem (as always in history) from the economic situation. European kings knew all too well t…

>hitting the middle-upper class super hard

What are you talking about? White collars are working from home, by and large. None of my engineer friends have lost their jobs yet (one is getting furloughed for a week though)

Re: Google to Slow Hiring for Rest of 2020

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Post by HenryKissinger »

coliveira wrote: post #60
paxys wrote: post #40

I wonder if so many layoffs, freezes etc. happening at the moment are directly due to the crisis or something that was long overdue and can now be done without much negative PR.

Google depends on advertisers to make money, and the writing is on the wall for these advertisers.

Maybe Google will start charging for their services. $5/mo for Gmail, $5/mo for Drive, etc.

Re: Google to Slow Hiring for Rest of 2020

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Post by bl4ckneon »

HenryKissinger wrote: post #105
coliveira wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google depends on advertisers to make money, and the writing is on the wall for these advertisers.

Maybe Google will start charging for their services. $5/mo for Gmail, $5/mo for Drive, etc.

And maybe pigs will fly?

Re: Google to Slow Hiring for Rest of 2020

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Post by sytelus »

Before everyone starts painting bleak picture, reminder: Facebook's Sandberg announced last week or so that they are going to do accelerated hiring spree this year, opening massive 10,000 more positions! Google as well as Facebook both depend on ads so I'm wondering why one is tightening the belt and other is moving full speed on expansion.

Re: Google to Slow Hiring for Rest of 2020

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Post by defectbydesign »

_IsThisRealLife wrote: post #81
0xFFC wrote: post #68

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As third party observer, why this gets downvoted? I’m genuinely asking.

Probably because it is perceived to be a fairly uninformed question. It's sort of like talking about the USPS potential insolvency and someone asking how many postmen will be replaced with gig economy workers. As far as I'm aware, major leading American tech companies have never really exported jobs to India, it has been almost entirely companies that need mediocre quality work contracting out to companies that fill…

Is it a joke?

In many industries it's not uncommon to subcontract a service by a subcontractor which himself subcontract the same service to another subcontractor (usually cheaper).

In the end it is only a question of money!

Actually top american tech companies don't have to go directly to India to get cheaper workers but instead they call american subcontractor to get cheaper workers anywhere in the world. Even more with restricted green cards thanks to Donald TRUMP. :-)

Re: Google to Slow Hiring for Rest of 2020

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Post by zdw »

HenryKissinger wrote: post #105
coliveira wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google depends on advertisers to make money, and the writing is on the wall for these advertisers.

Maybe Google will start charging for their services. $5/mo for Gmail, $5/mo for Drive, etc.

Congratulations, you just invented G Suite.
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