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I think the only way to beat vs code at this point is to implement IDE in a native language without GC. VSCode , eclipse etc can be very sluggish on large-ish projects, slow downs accumulate with code base size growth leading to usability problems, slow autocompletion etc.
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If you've successfully logged in with non-Github OAuth, can you substantiate that with steps to reproduce? E.g, 1. Navigate to https://open-vsx.org/ 2. [ etc… ]
Haven't tried it myself but you can always go to the code and do it yourself : I think the confusion here is that https://open-vsx.org/ requires github which is normal, they can require whatever they want you can even go in and add something else => https://github.com/eclipse/open-vsx.org or roll your own : https://github.com/eclipse/openvsx
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In my opinion, you're doing it either wrong or lazy. My company doesn't do telemetry. We do actual user testing with actual users, even to the point of shadowing them as they use the product. The same way it's been done for the last 40 years. You learn more from interfacing with the wetware than you do grepping logs.
Why not both? User testing won't help you with questions like "there's a bug in feature X, but the fix will potentially impact feature Y in unforeseen ways. Given we're shipping soon, is it a good idea to apply the fix now or should we apply a much simpler mitigation and postpose the full fix till next iteration so we can get more testing in or even implement a larger refactoring that would resolve this category of b…
Because you respect your users and know their privacy has value.
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Why switch from VS Code to Codium? For me, it was because I don't want to be spied on by Microsoft. VS Codium is VS Code without the telemetry and tracking.
As I became involved in more and more products and customer feedback, I started opting into telemetry collection programs. It’s ultimately what helps make the products I use better.
But, for products I love, I also sometimes opt in to telemetry - it depends on the product, the company, and the data that's collected.
In the case of Visual Studio Code, it's very clear what data is collected, and I decided I was fine with it. It's free, it's OSS, and I want to help make it even better.
My only gripe with VS Code is that the telemetry is opt-out, rather than opt-in. Yes, it's easy to opt-out, but that's not the point - IMO, it should always be opt-in.
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If you've successfully logged in with non-Github OAuth, can you substantiate that with steps to reproduce? E.g, 1. Navigate to https://open-vsx.org/ 2. [ etc… ]
Haven't tried it myself but you can always go to the code and do it yourself : I think the confusion here is that https://open-vsx.org/ requires github which is normal, they can require whatever they want you can even go in and add something else => https://github.com/eclipse/open-vsx.org or roll your own : https://github.com/eclipse/openvsx
OK, I'll bite... "...that enable developers, organizations, and vendors to create new, extensible solutions that avoid the fees associated with VS Code." What fees are they talking about? VS Code is not my regular editor, but the whole thing seems to indicate confusion between "Visual Studio" and "Visual Studio Code". I am missing something or is the Eclipse Foundation really conflating the two?
I am guessing the person may not have English as a first language and meant to say 'costs' instead of 'fees'. I am not sure which costs they would be talking about. Perhaps telemetry or the limitations they mention in the article.
Nichols Communications for the Eclipse Foundation, Inc. Jay Nichols
A public relations business based in San Francisco should have that sorted out whether or not the actual author was a native English speaker or not.
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As I became involved in more and more products and customer feedback, I started opting into telemetry collection programs. It’s ultimately what helps make the products I use better.
In my opinion, you're doing it either wrong or lazy. My company doesn't do telemetry. We do actual user testing with actual users, even to the point of shadowing them as they use the product. The same way it's been done for the last 40 years. You learn more from interfacing with the wetware than you do grepping logs.
But in the case of VS Code, I agree with the other commenters that you can benefit from both.
VS Code supports many languages, source control systems, workflows, external systems and extensions, and it's used by a very wide spectrum of users and developers. I can see why they believe telemetry is required to better understand how it's used.
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If you've successfully logged in with non-Github OAuth, can you substantiate that with steps to reproduce? E.g, 1. Navigate to https://open-vsx.org/ 2. [ etc… ]
Haven't tried it myself but you can always go to the code and do it yourself : I think the confusion here is that https://open-vsx.org/ requires github which is normal, they can require whatever they want you can even go in and add something else => https://github.com/eclipse/open-vsx.org or roll your own : https://github.com/eclipse/openvsx
If it has borrowed any concepts from Eclipse IDE (like workspaces and hidden dirs stuffed with XML)... it’s a hard pass for me.
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I wouldn't trust Oracle. Is this going to be like VirtualBox which is "free" and "open source" except for the extension pack on the very same page that you can one click download? If anyone isn't aware, they track the IP address of that extension and if they can trace it back to your company they then come calling for money. It's basically a sort of litigation honey pot. Sure, it's all legal, but it's such a nasty da…
But just to be clear, Oracle does not control Eclipse IP.