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Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #60
caf wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is worth remembering that the speed limit is not an "it is always safe to drive this speed here" advisory. In particular if your vision is obstructed (perhaps by very heavy rain, fog, or an oncoming car with high beams) then you may need to slow down considerably.

sure, but high beams is sort of really temporary and often sort of sudden. I mean if someone is going the speed limit what does slowing down considerably look like in that instance?

for some reason that got downvoted, but I thought my reasoning was clear and of course reasonable. Poor vision caused by fog is different than poor vision caused by high beams, you should slow down considerably in thick fog, but coming over a hill, high beams in your eyes you probably should probably just ease up a bit.

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

#102

Post by erk__ »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #46
MiroF wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a statistic that's great to pass around but I have read that drunk pedestrian walking is more dangerous than drunk driving (to the driver). Taking an uber is always the move.

I sort of wonder if that is heavily dependent on country or area, I mean drunk pedestrian walking in Los Angeles might be more dangerous than in Copenhagen.

Kind of anadotical but the only time I have been around someone who got run into in Copenhagen they were visible drunk. Though I don't have any stats I can pull up.

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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Post by globular-toast »

MiroF wrote: post #22
jessaustin wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One could go to prison for this in USA, but only if the local police and prosecutors already hated one's guts for other reasons. In most cases a drunk pedestrian would be considered less sympathetic than a sober driver. Yes it is a pretty shabby "justice" when sympathies rather than facts determine verdicts.

The US justice system in general is pretty sympathetic to drivers in general, I doubt a case like this would see over a year of jail time here, and likely none at all.

Drivers yes, but I think he was riding a motorbike.

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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Post by aastronaut »

miguelmota wrote: post #89

The CoreJS author blocked me and many other people on github for simply making a suggestion to tone down the "looking for a good job" npm install logs because it'll invoke other people to try the same thing which would result in unnecessary log pollution. It seemed like strange behavior for someone maintaining a very popular community driven project.

IMHO there is no reason to bring an unrelated GitHub issue discussion into this comment thread.

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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Post by scubadude »

manigandham wrote: post #45
jakear wrote: post #2

What a wild ride this has been. Looking at the police report, I do wonder what the punishment would be in other countries. It seems the victims were laying drunk on the ground in dark clothing at top a hill (edit: hill not mentioned in police report, but seems logical given the headlight statement), causing the headlight beams to not illuminate them. On top of that, incoming traffic blinded the driver. This is of cou…

Perhaps this detail should be added to the Github issue to mitigate the misunderstandings and accusations already going on there.

The lack of empathy displayed in that thread is disgusting.

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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Post by throwaway147147 »

jakear wrote: post #2

What a wild ride this has been. Looking at the police report, I do wonder what the punishment would be in other countries. It seems the victims were laying drunk on the ground in dark clothing at top a hill (edit: hill not mentioned in police report, but seems logical given the headlight statement), causing the headlight beams to not illuminate them. On top of that, incoming traffic blinded the driver. This is of cou…

The following is case assured me that the justice system in Germany is good and just:

A child was fatally hit by a truck at a tram station after another child pushed them. The truck driver tested positive for pot and was ultimately acquitted because the court concluded that even if the driver had been perfectly fit for driving, the accident would have been unavoidable.

I can not remember but I am certain that the driver had to face additional charges for driving under influence but this is another thing.

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

#107

Post by qeternity »

juliansimioni wrote: post #52
whoisjuan wrote: post #44

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Why would the registry do anything at all? That’s why forking it’s a thing. It’s certainly inconvenient but transferring the access of the original project to another party sets a very bad precedent. Maybe when the maintainer dies, but this guy is very much alive. It is his work and he chose to give it freely to others through an OSS license. That doesn’t automatically grant anybody access to the original project. If…

Here's a hypothetical, but extremely plausible scenario. Lets say tomorrow a major security vulnerability is discovered in CoreJS. Full root access because I'm making this all up. NPM says core-js has 19k dependents, so it would be very preferable if an X.Y.1 release could be pushed with a security only fix, to be picked up in as many projects as possible. In that case, I think it would be extremely reasonable for NP…

You're conflating two things: the npm package, and the GitHub repo. In your hypothetical, I agree with you that action would be needed: the repo should be forked and patched, and NPM should publish the new release as the official npm corejs package. This has accomplishes the same while trampling as little "ownership" as possible.

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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Post by Strom »

miguelmota wrote: post #89

The CoreJS author blocked me and many other people on github for simply making a suggestion to tone down the "looking for a good job" npm install logs because it'll invoke other people to try the same thing which would result in unnecessary log pollution. It seemed like strange behavior for someone maintaining a very popular community driven project.

> community driven project

Check out the contributors page for this project. [1] This is not a community driven project. It's a one man show.

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[1] https://github.com/zloirock/core-js/graphs/contributors

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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Post by joecool1029 »

overeater wrote: post #75
_pd19 wrote: post #71

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I wish we were as sympathetic to drug dealers and theft as many on HN want us to be towards a programmer who ran someone over in their motorcycle.

Why? Those people chose to do something bad. The programmer was not doing anything intentionally wrong.

I think this is the correct take from this. It's also one of those situations where US law would be superior over poorly coded civil law (like Russia apparently has). As I understand they only evaluate that the violation occurred (i.e.: person dead, in crosswalk, done by attacker on vehicle). Absent additional information like cam footage showing them jumping out of a bush at the last moment into the crosswalk for insurance fraud, the case will result in a conviction.

It is simply the case that things happen out of a driver's control. In the US you'd be looking at a consideration for involuntary manslaughter charge (or perhaps a lesser negligence charge) if it was found that they were speeding or impaired. Absent those circumstances, it's unlikely any charge would be brought forth. There are some other ways a similar charge could be brought in an investigation, but that's generally how it goes.

A final note on the topic of getting drunk and playing in traffic. I highly recommend you get people that do stuff like this to sign up for organ donation. I have a good friend who had a congenital heart defect that benefited from a heart transplant. This was after the donor walked into traffic blitzed on holiday. So it might be that out of the tragedy of a wasted life they might be able to save someone else's.

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

#110

Post by syshum »

MiroF wrote: post #22
jessaustin wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One could go to prison for this in USA, but only if the local police and prosecutors already hated one's guts for other reasons. In most cases a drunk pedestrian would be considered less sympathetic than a sober driver. Yes it is a pretty shabby "justice" when sympathies rather than facts determine verdicts.

The US justice system in general is pretty sympathetic to drivers in general, I doubt a case like this would see over a year of jail time here, and likely none at all.

The US does not have a justice system, it has a legal system. Any "justice" served by the system is pure coincidence
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