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Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Spray/Jet is best. Required some plumbing and fitting jet between toilet sheet. All you need to do is turn on the knob. No recurring cost of toilet paper.

I use TP with my bidet. Unless you want swamp butt, you have to. I use LESS, but there's certainly still a hard requirement.

You can always use a towel!

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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A normal faucet has an overflow prevention. If the bidet's line runs outside of the toilet bowl, and fails there, then it leaks onto the floor.

A normal faucet has two supply lines underneath the sink, and frequently they're flexible. Those can leak and cause a massive flood. Has that ever happened to you? In addition, every toilet also has a supply line underneath, running from the wall valve to the bottom of the tank where the fill valve is mounted. Again, these are frequently flexible lines. How is this different than a bidet?

> Has that ever happened to you?

Yes, and it flooded three floors of my house and required months of renovations. Thanks for asking about it. I briefly considered giving up on indoor plumbing altogether.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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It's time for the bidet and for water filtration systems. You can use four squares of toilet paper to wipe your butt and then bidet the rest. This is a huge savings on toilet paper. An under-sink 7 stage reverse osmosis water filtration system cleans water and enriches it with minerals. It is delicious. With these two systems at home, you've addressed two top hoarding items during a panic.

> You can use four squares of toilet paper to wipe your butt and then bidet the rest. This is a huge savings on toilet paper.

There must be a huge variation in diet and body shape in this discussion.

Four squares is about the maximum I ever use (even if I'm ill). This is probably why I checked what's left in my cupboard (6 rolls from an 8-pack) and haven't bought any more, yet there are people loading up the trolley with 32, 48 or more rolls.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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It's time for the bidet and for water filtration systems. You can use four squares of toilet paper to wipe your butt and then bidet the rest. This is a huge savings on toilet paper. An under-sink 7 stage reverse osmosis water filtration system cleans water and enriches it with minerals. It is delicious. With these two systems at home, you've addressed two top hoarding items during a panic.

> You can use four squares of toilet paper to wipe your butt and then bidet the rest. This is a huge savings on toilet paper. There must be a huge variation in diet and body shape in this discussion. Four squares is about the maximum I ever use (even if I'm ill). This is probably why I checked what's left in my cupboard (6 rolls from an 8-pack) and haven't bought any more, yet there are people loading up the trolley…

Clearly, you are male and unmarried.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

#105

Cheapest alternative maybe the teapot looking device from Indian sub-continent, known as a: lota. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lota_(vessel)

A kettle for your rear is rather spartan. Urban indians usually opt for a hose attached to a hand spray.

Imo,the biggest plus point of the bidet over the above is that it doesn't get the floor wet.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Doesn't help much given how water's heat of evaporation is.

If that were true, wouldn't showering in those climates be much more uncomfortable? It's not like the water goes everywhere, or you don't dry immediately with paper...

If you ever took a hot shower in southern China in the winter without the benefit of indoor heat, ya, it’s uncomfortable.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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I use TP with my bidet. Unless you want swamp butt, you have to. I use LESS, but there's certainly still a hard requirement.

You can always use a towel!

The TP doesn't come out just wet always, a towel would be nasty soon.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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This is the one issue that's stopped me. Most these attachments connect to the toilet's water supply, which is fine, except most toilet water supplies only provide cold (i.e. whatever the ambient water temperature happens to be) water which to me, is far from ideal in a bidet (it's fine for normal use though). Running hot water there is a significant undertaking if done correctly, so most options come with a small re…

I think hot water mixing valves are standard for toilet lines in modern construction. It mixes in enough hot water to prevent condensation from occurring on the tank or the bowl. The water wouldn't be shower warm, but judging by other comments here it's less of an issue than one might think. I guess you might not have this if you live somewhere like west Texas. In my old rental, the mixing valve malfunctioned and con…

I've never heard of that. It looks like something from North America (any other Europeans heard of it?), and it sounds appropriately wasteful :-)

Searching for the condensation problem in Britain, plumbers suggest using an insulated cistern (tank).

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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> You can use four squares of toilet paper to wipe your butt and then bidet the rest. This is a huge savings on toilet paper. There must be a huge variation in diet and body shape in this discussion. Four squares is about the maximum I ever use (even if I'm ill). This is probably why I checked what's left in my cupboard (6 rolls from an 8-pack) and haven't bought any more, yet there are people loading up the trolley…

Clearly, you are male and unmarried.

And well paid enough to justify N ply where N>1 or so.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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A normal faucet has two supply lines underneath the sink, and frequently they're flexible. Those can leak and cause a massive flood. Has that ever happened to you? In addition, every toilet also has a supply line underneath, running from the wall valve to the bottom of the tank where the fill valve is mounted. Again, these are frequently flexible lines. How is this different than a bidet?

The cheapest bidet attachments all have very flimsy plastic threading for their supply lines. My first one did develop a small leak after eight years, but by then it had more than proven the concept and I bought a nicer one.

It sounds a lot like we're talking about different things. The Italian guy before is talking about a real bidet, a serious plumbing fixture much like a toilet. You and others seem to be thinking of some cheap, plastic add-on. Personally, I was thinking of either the European-style bidet, or the Japanese-style washlet, neither of which is cheap.
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