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Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

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Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

#101

Post by craftinator »

s_y_n_t_a_x wrote: post #100
craftinator wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The total number of cases in each country indicates otherwise. The number of cases in the US is wrong. We know it's wrong because if it was right, we wouldn't have cases stemming from unknown sources. > Currently compared to every other country on Earth, we have quarantined it the best. No. We've put our collective heads in the sand, and hidden from testing any significant number of people. > It WILL spread across…

> The number of cases in the US is wrong. We know it's wrong because if it was right, we wouldn't have cases stemming from unknown sources. We know they are from other countries that weren't able to get their quarantine under control. Iran and South Korea. Flights from SK were banned this Saturday morning. Flights from Iran were already banned, but now those coming from Canada and other countries that have been in Ir…

> > The number of cases in the US is wrong. We know it's wrong because if it was right, we wouldn't have cases stemming from unknown sources.

> We know they are from other countries that weren't able to get their quarantine under control. Iran and South Korea. Flights from SK were banned this Saturday morning. Flights from Iran were already banned, but now those coming from Canada and other countries that have been in Iran can no longer enter either.

No shit Sherlock. Unknown sources, as in none of the people that we suspected of being exposed could've come into contact with people who later tested positive.

> > This is the outcome of a bad quarantine.

> So you agree that case numbers matter and the US has dealt with it the best so far, because it's spread across the world much more prevalent than here.

I'm really not sure why you think "bad quarantine = we're #1!", but no, there are many other countries that did a better job of the US, and now it's likely a good number of us will die from it.

> > You get better and more complete information from reddit.

> Your reaction makes a lot of sense now.

Yes, I'm wholly willing to vet sources by the quality of the information they provide, and the CDC is putting out platitudes and vague happy-go-lucky information, while a number of informal channels are putting out the highest quality information available.

Check out: https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/fakavo/compilation...

Compare it to: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html

I know at this point you're just trolling, but this really isn't the right place for it.

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

#102

Post by s_y_n_t_a_x »

craftinator wrote: post #101
s_y_n_t_a_x wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The number of cases in the US is wrong. We know it's wrong because if it was right, we wouldn't have cases stemming from unknown sources. We know they are from other countries that weren't able to get their quarantine under control. Iran and South Korea. Flights from SK were banned this Saturday morning. Flights from Iran were already banned, but now those coming from Canada and other countries that have been in Ir…

> > The number of cases in the US is wrong. We know it's wrong because if it was right, we wouldn't have cases stemming from unknown sources. > We know they are from other countries that weren't able to get their quarantine under control. Iran and South Korea. Flights from SK were banned this Saturday morning. Flights from Iran were already banned, but now those coming from Canada and other countries that have been i…

Your Reddit post links to the CDC. All of that information you can basically find on the CDC website.

You're very misinformed and you seem to have angst against the administration for little reason.

Get off the internet and stop trying to scare people. Go stock up on germ-x and spend time with your family. Stop politicizing a very serious situation, it's dangerous and tacky.

Good night.

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

#103

Post by bsaul »

navels wrote: post #94
bsaul wrote: post #92

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I'm not even sure what this "no innate immunity" sentence means. Old and fragile people are getting vaccined for flu every year, because they aren't immuned to the new strain of the year. Now it is true that old and fragile people should be worried about coronavirus, but judging from death rates, it doesn't seem more deadly than the flu. So why put fear in the whole population ? also, most people only experience noth…

Where are you getting your information? According to the Chinese CDC it is 20 times more deadly than the flu. And why does "most people only experience nothing more than a cold symptoms" imply that they "have an immune system able to fight this virus quite efficiently"? Younger and non-vulnerable people have gotten extremely sick (and died), one theory being that the more of the actual virus you are exposed to the mo…

influenza has 650k death over 3-5 million cases per year, according to wikipedia, which is around 16% casuality.

according to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ coronavirus has 3k deaths over 86k, which is 3%. Or if you take the other metrics, which is 40k recovered, that's 3/43 around 7% death. still way lower than the flu.

as for my remark about immune system, my point is that the vast majority of people experience very mild symptoms. Which means that their body was perfectly able to fight back and produce the antibody, just like against the other flus.

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

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Post by navels »

bsaul wrote: post #103
navels wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where are you getting your information? According to the Chinese CDC it is 20 times more deadly than the flu. And why does "most people only experience nothing more than a cold symptoms" imply that they "have an immune system able to fight this virus quite efficiently"? Younger and non-vulnerable people have gotten extremely sick (and died), one theory being that the more of the actual virus you are exposed to the mo…

influenza has 650k death over 3-5 million cases per year, according to wikipedia, which is around 16% casuality. according to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ coronavirus has 3k deaths over 86k, which is 3%. Or if you take the other metrics, which is 40k recovered, that's 3/43 around 7% death. still way lower than the flu. as for my remark about immune system, my point is that the vast majority of people ex…

Try again. That’s 3–5 million severe cases per year, not total cases.

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

#105

Post by bsaul »

navels wrote: post #104
bsaul wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

influenza has 650k death over 3-5 million cases per year, according to wikipedia, which is around 16% casuality. according to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ coronavirus has 3k deaths over 86k, which is 3%. Or if you take the other metrics, which is 40k recovered, that's 3/43 around 7% death. still way lower than the flu. as for my remark about immune system, my point is that the vast majority of people ex…

Try again. That’s 3–5 million severe cases per year, not total cases.

i suppose the people that got diagnosed for the coronavirus at the moment are people that felt bad enough to go to the doctor or hospital. We probably don't know about most of the cases..

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

#106

Post by craftinator »

s_y_n_t_a_x wrote: post #102
craftinator wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> > The number of cases in the US is wrong. We know it's wrong because if it was right, we wouldn't have cases stemming from unknown sources. > We know they are from other countries that weren't able to get their quarantine under control. Iran and South Korea. Flights from SK were banned this Saturday morning. Flights from Iran were already banned, but now those coming from Canada and other countries that have been i…

Your Reddit post links to the CDC. All of that information you can basically find on the CDC website. You're very misinformed and you seem to have angst against the administration for little reason. Get off the internet and stop trying to scare people. Go stock up on germ-x and spend time with your family. Stop politicizing a very serious situation, it's dangerous and tacky. Good night.

> Your Reddit post links to the CDC. All of that information you can basically find on the CDC website.

Before you edited your comment, you said that half of the links linked to the CDC. The other half linked elsewhere, where useful information was to be had.

> You're very misinformed and you seem to have angst against the administration for little reason.

Gee thanks, nice to see you aren't above personal attacks. Having been a Marine for nearly a decade, I have quite a lot of experience with the US government.

> Get off the internet and stop trying to scare people. Go stock up on germ-x and spend time with your family. Stop politicizing a very serious situation, it's dangerous and tacky.

> Good night.

Truly a poet.

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

#107

Post by navels »

bsaul wrote: post #105
navels wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try again. That’s 3–5 million severe cases per year, not total cases.

i suppose the people that got diagnosed for the coronavirus at the moment are people that felt bad enough to go to the doctor or hospital. We probably don't know about most of the cases..

Science: https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-chi...

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

#108

Post by nojvek »

daxfohl wrote: post #67
all_blue_chucks wrote: post #22

This hospital as about midway between Microsoft and Amazon headquarters. The governor just declared a state of emergency and authorized use of the national guard: https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/department-health-confirms-...

Google has a sizable Kirkland office. A good chunk of Google Cloud is there. Also, rather ironically, Costco is headquartered there. EDIT: Costco was founded there, but current hq is a few miles away in Issaquah.

People are panic shopping. I think even though the president is downplaying it, seeing how fast it spread in China and Italy, people are preparing for it to be really bad here.

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

#109

Post by makomk »

baq wrote: post #39
wolco wrote: post #37

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I'm sure this is the reason. Not being honest about it is a problem.

Why didn’t they buy working kits from other countries though? They had weeks to do that.

Probably because there's absolutely no reason to do so? It's not like the US has a shortage of labs that can produce these kits. Supposedly, the problem was that the CDC lab tasked with mass producing the testing kits wasn't competent to do so and didn't realise it - if the government had known what the problem was, they could've contracted production out to another US lab sooner. With the benefit of hindsight we of course know that getting kits from somewhere else would've been better, but imagine how much harder this problem would be to diagnose if the kits were sourced from some foreign lab the FDA didn't have access to.

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

#110

Post by mbrubeck »

waynecochran wrote: post #2

How do you differentiate influenza from covid-19? These folks probably just have the flu. I live in WA state and I had the worst case of the flu I can remember about 3 weeks ago. Did I have covid-19? No way to really know.

> These folks probably just have the flu.

An update, ten days later: 26 people (nearly a quarter of the 120 residents of this facility) have died in the past three weeks. Most of those who died have already positive for the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus. Post-mortem tests are still pending for a handful of the earlier cases.

More than half of the surviving residents have also tested positive for coronavirus so far. Most of them are serious cases and are currently hospitalized. More than a third of the staff have COVID-19 symptoms and are awaiting test results.

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