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#101
post #73

If this whistleblower [0] is to be believed, then the Chinese may be downplaying this [0] - https://twitter.com/Terrence_STR/status/1221100970521829377

She said the R0 is 14? Seems very inconsistent with other sources(Chinese or otherwise[1]). We can take this video into consideration but there's no need to disregard other sources completely and only trust her.

1. example from another comment below: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22168981

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#102
post #64

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It's 3-4 orders of magnitude more deadly than the normal seasonal flu. The mortality rate is similar to SARS, but with far more infections. The above comment saying that it "mostly" impacts elderly is a bit vague. The fact that within the first 100 deaths were multiple young healthy people means it is dangerous for the entire population. People in their 30s and 40s are not "old".

> It's 3-4 orders of magnitude more deadly than the normal seasonal flu Citation?

Influenza deaths are 2 per 100,000.

source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/flu.htm

SARS death rate is around 10%

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndr...

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#103
post #52

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It seems to be as infectious as a cold. So no.

Have you ever been in a room or walking down the street and see every other person have a cold? That is extreme.

I've read that you can carry it for 1-2 weeks without showing symptoms. That might significantly change how the virus spreads compared to flu.

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#104

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People who are actually concerned at this stage while ignoring the scientists who say there's no proof it's serious are prime examples of the types who get worked up by the media hypetrain and should be actively avoided. It's a harsh assessment but honestly think it's the case. The media sell stories. People click on those stories, the stories that get clicked on most get other stories written on the topic. This is h…

China just shut down 15 cities and 2 provinces with nearly 80 million people and put men with guns in nbc suits at all the exits,shut down the internet,stop all travel and extend public holidays Im sure its perfectly harmless

Please cite the source of shutting down the internet. As a Chinese, as far as I read only physical movement are prohibited. Many people stay at home play online games now.

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#107
post #21

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A relevant question is also, if most deaths really are among immunocompromised, elderly or very young, then how many of those 2% would have been killed by the flu or similar if coronavirus hadn't shown up? 14 million dead is terrible by any measure, but I'm wondering how much of a change over the norm it actually represents.

It's 3-4 orders of magnitude more deadly than the normal seasonal flu. The mortality rate is similar to SARS, but with far more infections. The above comment saying that it "mostly" impacts elderly is a bit vague. The fact that within the first 100 deaths were multiple young healthy people means it is dangerous for the entire population. People in their 30s and 40s are not "old".

There was a single death of someone in their 30s out of 100+. And I don't even know if its been confirmed if they were immunocomprimised or not. Every other person to die was 47 or above, many of who had previous health issues. 1 out of 100 is is a pretty good indication that it mostly dangerous to the older population. The fact that no young children to have died yet, which also tend to be a vulnerable group for viruses like influenza and SARS is also worth noting.

Also, you should be more precise in your wording. 3-4 orders of magnitude worse than the flu is absolutely not true. The mortality rate for the flu is around 14.3 per 100,000. With this as a baseline, 4 orders of magnitude is 143%, which isn't actually possible unless you are aware of people being able to die more than once. Even 3 orders of magnitude is 14.3%, which is higher than SARS. The current estimate is around 2%, which is more like 2 orders of magnitude.

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#108

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> Those colds that you’re seeing represent common symptoms of many viruses And not just that. I have a septum deviation, so I basically have a runny nose all winter long, even though, most of the time, no viruses are involved.

It's worth fixing that, surgery has come a long way. I had it surgically corrected last year and the energy boost from better breathing while physically active, better sleeping, and the lack of annoying people with my snoring are well worth it.

Can't agree enough.

Even directly after surgery, with all the related inflammation and dried blood and gross up there, I immediately noticed a massive airflow difference.

Do it.

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#109
post #2

This looks a lot more serious compared to a week ago.

People who are actually concerned at this stage while ignoring the scientists who say there's no proof it's serious are prime examples of the types who get worked up by the media hypetrain and should be actively avoided. It's a harsh assessment but honestly think it's the case. The media sell stories. People click on those stories, the stories that get clicked on most get other stories written on the topic. This is h…

You can outsmart a traffic accident.

Tough for most to outrun/outsmart an epidemic.

Read/watch some of the Twitter whistleblowers.

Govs have no reason to tell everyone the true risks - and every reason to hide them.

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#110
post #16

Given the distribution in China, it looks like it is not going to be contained in Wuhan, even with a quarantine.

Yeah. I mean as a Plague, Inc. player I have to give kudos to this virus. Having the outbreak shortly before the spring festival is genius, the travel ban for Wuhan came so late that many people already traveled to all over the country to meet their families, greatly helping the spread. I'm staying inside for now...

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/01/plague-inc-maker-dont...
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