Noticing You're Confused • Hacker News Board

Re: Noticing You're Confused

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Post by mLuby » Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 3:59 PM UTC

hliyan wrote: post #39

nodesocket wrote: post #29

Something about this story doesn’t add up to me. Maybe I am being cynical but it seems like this was fabricated for the exposure.

I sensed this too. So I looked at the author's profile. Now I'm even more confused: From https://arr.am : Stuff That’s Happened to Me I took a photo that may now be one of the most reproduced images in history. I once came up with an idea with a friend that accidentally became a national TV ad featuring Nicki Minaj, Serena Williams, Usher, Kylie and Kendall Jenner. I once crashed a fashion show, pretended to be a mod…

It's not that confusing, just a bit needy†

1. How many memes are there? Still, this is the most unlikely brag which is probably why it's first.

2. I've had great ideas that turned into things too (causality not confirmed). Friend could have been in advertising.

3. This is… unlikely as stated but there may have been an audience participation part that could be generously reworded this way (and some people say "crashed" to mean "went spontaneously" rather than "snuck in").

4. Easy to imagine a bored bartender on a dead night exchanging a shot for a moment of levity. #Anchorman

5. Could be an embellishment of "I added a song or skipped forward a track and there was someone famous in earshot."

6. I think the brag here is "I take desirable things from rich/famous people because I'm at their level" but it's much more likely just a maître d's mistake and the vodka guy was escalating to get his way. Also we don't know the result—who got the table?

7. Wouldn't surprise me if there are "experience archaeology" tours that contrive this kind of thing. #StartupIdea

†Which, to be fair, aren't we all?

Re: Noticing You're Confused

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Post by awesome_dude » Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 10:22 PM UTC

So, I have been giving this a bit of thought, when I interview badly (and I have a zillion times), it's mostly because I'm not used to vocalising my thoughts whilst I work.

That is interviewer: Tell me what your next step is in solving this problem me:

The problem is two things, I, as an engineer, barely ever talk to people as I am solving whatever it is I am doing, so the interview is a completely artificial environment that I am not equipped for (although, as I interview more I get back into the groove and by the third or fourth interview I am able to anticipate the questions and produce a mechanical answer that satisfies the interviewer)

The second part of the problem is obvious, the interviewer has no clue why I cannot answer the question, so can only assume it's a lack of skills on my part.

Interviews are an artificial environment, there's no way an interviewer can actually tell from the interview whether the person in front of them is a good engineer or not.

When I have got a few interviews under my belt, I am fluent, and able to demonstrate my theory knowledge clearly. Have my skills changed? Not really, my interview skills for sure, but my engineering skills?

Interviewers often try to counter this by searching for some obscure factoid within the technology and wondering why people being interviewed don't know it (curiously there's the other problem here where interviewers themselves have an erroneous understanding of the technology and this leads to false negatives).

Re: Noticing You're Confused

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Post by GFischer » Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 2:15 PM UTC

jaspax wrote: post #31

sdan wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a difference between lying about one position and making entire linkedin profiles that you set up. One's mischievous and one's deception.

No, they're both deception, and they're both strong negative signals. Think of it this way. Out of the 1000 people who will outright lie about having worked some place, 999 of them are sociopaths or grifters who will do serious harm to your company if you hire them. The last one is Steve Jobs. We only hear about the last one, usually, but if you're hiring someone and you know that they've lied about their experience,…

And Jobs WAS a sociopath. He was also a ruthless genius.

Re: Noticing You're Confused

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