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Apple sets deadline for Amazon's Kindle app to change - They want 30% per book

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Re: Apple sets deadline for Amazon's Kindle app to change - They want 30% per book

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post #66

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Initially I thought this, but Amazon has to pass on 70% of the sale to the publisher, and with Apple taking 30%, regardless of how much the ebook was sold for, Amazon is left with nothing.

Do you think this is deliberate on Apple's part to force a change in publishing contracts?

Possibly, but I think it's more likely that Apple is trying to get publishers into its iBooks store by edging out Kindle and Sony.

Re: Apple sets deadline for Amazon's Kindle app to change - They want 30% per book

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post #71
post #29

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I'm betting we'll get there in a few years, the same way it happened with music - DRM for a while, then once people get used to paying for stuff, the DRM goes away in most cases. Unfortunately, if history is any indication, the last place this will happen is in school textbooks which is honestly where the ebook revolution should start.

"the DRM goes away in most cases." It seems to me tough that music is the exception to the rule. Computer games mostly have some form of copy protection. Most computer programs have copy protection, minimally with a serial number, many with activation schemes. One of the "features" of web applications is that it's practically impossible to pirate them. How can we know that ebooks will be any different?

With music and books, there is always the analog hole and then once one good copy is made, it can be duplicated forever. Also they are both naturally suited for self contained offline access which is less costly and cumbersome than requiring a network connection. So I think the parent poster is right and copy protection will not be successful in ebooks just as it was not with digital music files.

Re: Apple sets deadline for Amazon's Kindle app to change - They want 30% per book

#103

Dear Apple, quit being douchebags, I love my iPad, please don't make me go out and buy a kindle as well which is what I will end up doing if Amazon pulls out of the App Store.

The Kindle is soooo much better for reading. Less eye strain, much lighter, amazing battery life, it's frickin $140, free news subscriptions with Calibre open source software. The 3rd generation has lots of nice improvements, most importantly in page turn time and contrast. At least try one if you haven't already.

Re: Apple sets deadline for Amazon's Kindle app to change - They want 30% per book

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post #45

Of course this is legal or Apple wouldn't be doing it. But it strikes me as an unnatural state of affairs. This idea that I can make a computational device, then own the right for you to put material on that device , is technically correct -- if you think of the iPad as some huge proprietary version of a CD player. But if you think of it an extension of your brain -- as a prosthesis which helps you share commonly und…

Apple doesn't "own the right to put material on that device", as apple provides many mechanisms to put material on the device outside of apple's control. Here's some of them: 1. iTunes file sync lets you put arbitrary files in there. I put many pdfs that I bought from pragmatic programmers in iBooks. Apple doesn't get a cut. iTunes also lets you sync any file type with any app that can read it (And apple lets free re…

I agree that it was obnoxious for Amazon to choose the mobi format instead of epub, but in practice it's not a big deal. I use the open source Calibre program. Among other things it will translate among mobi, epub, pdf and a bunch of other formats. There is really no effort involved. You just hit OK when it asks whether to convert the book before transferring it.

You can also email an epub to Amazon and it will come back immediately in Kindle format and this method also works well. There is no charge for wifi but there is a charge for cellular delivery.

I think the Kindle is admirably compatible with third party publishers or self published material, much more than Apple's locked down and toll collected ecosystem.

Re: Apple sets deadline for Amazon's Kindle app to change - They want 30% per book

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post #98

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MobileSafari = WebKit view

OK, sorry to be pedantic, but, no. MobileSafari != WebKit view.

Actually it is, he assigned it in the parent post, == is the equality test. :)

Re: Apple sets deadline for Amazon's Kindle app to change - They want 30% per book

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OK, sorry to be pedantic, but, no. MobileSafari != WebKit view.

Actually it is, he assigned it in the parent post, == is the equality test. :)

ok, but why would (MobileSafari == WebKit view) be false?

Re: Apple sets deadline for Amazon's Kindle app to change - They want 30% per book

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post #103

Dear Apple, quit being douchebags, I love my iPad, please don't make me go out and buy a kindle as well which is what I will end up doing if Amazon pulls out of the App Store.

The Kindle is soooo much better for reading. Less eye strain, much lighter, amazing battery life, it's frickin $140, free news subscriptions with Calibre open source software. The 3rd generation has lots of nice improvements, most importantly in page turn time and contrast. At least try one if you haven't already.

I actually fall into the group of people that had a Kindle, sold it once I got my iPad and could use the Kindle App and keep my entire library. I am pretty sure that nothing is going to get me to start buying books from the iBooks App.
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