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Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't

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Re: Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't

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post #62

Because this is Hacker News, the discussion would be incomplete without a link to the Supreme Court case Nix v. Hedden[1]. After the Tariff Act of 1883 taxed vegetables (but not fruits), produce seller John Nix — no relation to the package manager — sued to get tomatoes classified as a fruit. The court held that the “common meaning” mattered more than the botanical one: “Botanically speaking, tomatoes are the fruit o…

dingleberries are fruits, they also grown on vines. (hold on the salt)

Re: Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't

#102

There's a very good video on this [1] by Innuendo Studios on why this discussion is more or subjective, since it matters in what context you say it and what you mean by it. He does this with the example of a tomato, which by botanical defintion is a fruit. But in culinary terms, it is a vegetable. So when someone says "haha, did you know that a tomato is actually a fruit", it's subjective and can almost have no added…

That's not subjectivity so much as a namespace error. It's why quarks have no colors but also have colors.

The amusement arises from intentionally misunderstanding the namespace. It's not a real misunderstanding.

Re: Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't

#103
post #88

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Yes !! Tomate à la croque au sel as we call'em !! First time I ate a tomato like that in the US, my american friends made so much fun of me "yo, no way brooo ! he's eating a tomato like an apple, da'fu !! Weird frenchman !!". I still eat my tomatoes like that every so often, it's so good ! Although I think I end up eating quite a bit of salt when I do that which isn't so good...

In my head the biggest problem with this is that tomatoes are very liquidy and that seems like a very messy proposition. Obviously, sliced tomatoes with salt is a relatively common breakfast side item, so the idea of just eating tomato with salt isn't that uncommon in the U.S.

They're no worse than peaches in that regard. I only eat peaches over a sink.

Re: Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't

#104
post #9

I find the article pleasant in its writting and humour. For me this goes to show that thin clickbait articles can be interesting, it's just that most people who can write don't usually do clickbait. Excerpt: > The technical definition of a berry is "a fleshy fruit produced from a single ovary." If you're not too familiar with botany, this definition probably isn't helpful at all. But once you learn that oranges and t…

>yes, those delicious red fruits with "berries" literally in the name — aren't officially berries either. Similar to peanuts not being nuts, but in fact legumes.

Strange. I've often see people with peanut allergies have alligeries to nuts like Almonds but not to Legumes like Chickpeas or Lentils.

Re: Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't

#105
post #78

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I eat tomatoes like apples (with salt, I'm not a monster). No kink-shaming please.

You eat apples with salt?! Then again, this is an actual thing in India, albeit with _black_ salt, which is more tangy than bitter and salty.

I put (kosher) salt on Apples and Watermelon and it is delicious.

Re: Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't

#106
post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes !! Tomate à la croque au sel as we call'em !! First time I ate a tomato like that in the US, my american friends made so much fun of me "yo, no way brooo ! he's eating a tomato like an apple, da'fu !! Weird frenchman !!". I still eat my tomatoes like that every so often, it's so good ! Although I think I end up eating quite a bit of salt when I do that which isn't so good...

In my head the biggest problem with this is that tomatoes are very liquidy and that seems like a very messy proposition. Obviously, sliced tomatoes with salt is a relatively common breakfast side item, so the idea of just eating tomato with salt isn't that uncommon in the U.S.

I've been eating tomatoes in the US my whole life and definitely most people I've met think it's weird eating them plain.

Re: Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't

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post #70

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People who write code for robot compilers (aka programmers) often make this mistake. People who write code for human compilers (aka writers) embrace the subjectivity/variability of those human compilers

You forget one subcategory of writers: lawyers (and their subcategory legislators ). They definitely reject variability of interpretation as much as they can, or at least try their hardest to.

I think lawyers fundamentally premise their work on the variability of interpretation. They make arguments in favor of certain interpretations, and take pains in the texts they write to preempt any undesirable interpretations.

Legislators may or may not think like writers/lawyers, but even if they do they're constrained by those who don't, the need for compromise, and the incentive to have gotten something done even if it's not perfect. So they sometimes end up doing a bad job of legal writing.

Re: Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't

#108
post #14
post #8

And Tomatoes, by ruling of a Massachusetts court, “are a vegetable for tax purposes”

And Congress ruled that tomato pizza sauce is a vegetable for nutritional purposes. Don't you feel well legislated ? https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/did-congr...

Wow did you even read the title of the article you posted? Here it is:

>No, Congress did not declare pizza a vegetable

Congress decided that 1/8th of a cup of tomato puree counts as a SERVING of vegetables. Not A vegetable. You're just intentionally saying something stupid in order to attempt to project that stupidity on someone else.

Re: Bananas Are Berries, Strawberries Aren't

#109
post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes !! Tomate à la croque au sel as we call'em !! First time I ate a tomato like that in the US, my american friends made so much fun of me "yo, no way brooo ! he's eating a tomato like an apple, da'fu !! Weird frenchman !!". I still eat my tomatoes like that every so often, it's so good ! Although I think I end up eating quite a bit of salt when I do that which isn't so good...

In my head the biggest problem with this is that tomatoes are very liquidy and that seems like a very messy proposition. Obviously, sliced tomatoes with salt is a relatively common breakfast side item, so the idea of just eating tomato with salt isn't that uncommon in the U.S.

fyi

Waffle House, one of the larger chains of grill made food offer sliced tomatoes as a side in place of hash browns. I have no found that offering elsewhere. So it makes me wonder how it made to the menu

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