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What the death of iTunes says about digital habits

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Re: What the death of iTunes says about digital habits

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The Music app handles local libraries just fine.

Is that the logical successor to itunes? If so did it really die or just morph into something else?

iTunes did not die, no. It morphed as you described.

The iTunes Store app is used to buy music on iOS.

The Music app has an iTunes Store section as well.

You can disable even being shown Apple Music (the subscription service) to both of those apps.

You can sync locally just like your iPod, but on Catalina that functionality has been moved to Finder. But I believe you can initialize a music or photo sync in the respective apps as well.

Audiobooks have moved out of iTunes (music) and into the Booms app.

Not really that much has changed besides organization. And the changes have been a good idea, IMO.

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I'll bite: what problem is that?

Critical theorists aren't worth studying. They have no consistent norms of evaluating the quality of their work and their primary purpose is to advance literary explorations over calibration to any particular truth of the matter. So saying a critical theorist is well-studied by other critical theorists says very little about the value of their positions to non-literary fields. There may have been a fact of the matter…

>They have no consistent norms of evaluating the quality of their work and their primary purpose is to advance literary explorations over calibration to any particular truth of the matter.

This is patently false if you read any critical theory, in which reaching the truth on a matter is taken much more seriously than any literary aim. You can claim that mainstream critical theory didn't or isn't reaching the truth, but it's a wild claim to say it makes no attempt to do so. Read the Wikipedia article if you don't believe me.

>So saying a critical theorist is well-studied by other critical theorists

Critical theorists are studied and used by philosophers, legal scholars, and sociologists - it's not only critical theorists in some kind of secret club where they all congratulate each other. They are studied in literary fields not because of the literary value of their writing, but because of their criticism and aesthetic positions.

>but I think a true critical theorist would leave that up to debate.

They wouldn't, because critical theorists can recognize the truth and falsity of claims. Your criticism would be better aimed at the so-called postmodernists (and it'd still be wrong).

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Similarly, OS X is now older than Classic Mac OS (1984) was when OS X was released (2001).

it's much older than that if you count NeXTStep history. OS X didn't start from scratch

Fair point, though I'm satisfied at looking at Apple's marketed offerings.

You could take NeXT back to Thompson & Ritchie. NeXTStep as ur-Aqua is also a fair argument, but again, not occurring on mainline Mac generally. By that argument Classic Mac might be traced to the Alto and MOAD.

Re: What the death of iTunes says about digital habits

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Critical theorists aren't worth studying. They have no consistent norms of evaluating the quality of their work and their primary purpose is to advance literary explorations over calibration to any particular truth of the matter. So saying a critical theorist is well-studied by other critical theorists says very little about the value of their positions to non-literary fields. There may have been a fact of the matter…

>They have no consistent norms of evaluating the quality of their work and their primary purpose is to advance literary explorations over calibration to any particular truth of the matter. This is patently false if you read any critical theory, in which reaching the truth on a matter is taken much more seriously than any literary aim. You can claim that mainstream critical theory didn't or isn't reaching the truth, b…

> They are studied in literary fields not because of the literary value of their writing, but because of their criticism and aesthetic positions.

That's pretty hard to distinguish from "just" literature; of course not all literature is fictional or journalistic. But neither criticism nor aesthetics are particularly bounded in their ability to make negative or positive claims due to the flexibility of interpretation of background assumptions that both pancritical + justificationist disciplines rely on. It's inherently subversive of any central and stabilizing intellectual tendency and I think most critical theorists admit their goals as being such.

This is why I doubt the claim that there is a central truth that critical theorists are attempting to discover when their methods are designed to be as disputative or ambiguating as possible. Even if we're in a position where no assumption can be taken for granted in the end, productive operational work (in science in policy or otherwise) always has to maintain some initial set of working goals and assumptions to guide and rationalize action, and perform interventions which can maximally orient the institution towards further action. Subversiveness stalls except in how it wants to prevent such institutions from prolonging themselves.

> Critical theorists are studied and used by philosophers, legal scholars, and sociologists

Are they all trained out of the Frankfurt school by any chance? Yes they're sometimes worth responding to, no they're not worth taking seriously except as a means to an end.

> They wouldn't, because critical theorists can recognize the truth and falsity of claims. Your criticism would be better aimed at the so-called postmodernists (and it'd still be wrong).

I am earnestly interested in learning more about non-postmodern critical theorists. The pragmatists of the freshwater school (Sellars and Brandom mainly) are the only people on the top of my head that sing that note due to the way they deal seriously with the problem of interpretation in foundations and the way they want to internalize Hegel, while still having the aims of scientific inquiry in mind. But that's analytic philosophy assimilating continental philosophy rather than the other way around, which I'm more sympathetic to precisely because analytics tend to want to bound critique rather than produce more critique for its own sake (i.e. subversion as an ends).

Re: What the death of iTunes says about digital habits

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This article is just dumb... iTunes, while a bit bloated, worked just fine. Music replaces it well for music stuff. Mostly seem to complain about the removal of Apps function from iTunes, which was actually harder to manage your home screen with then just doing it on the device.

Re: What the death of iTunes says about digital habits

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> given that he is one of the most studied critical theorists in philosophy and literature Found your problem.

" Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Here's some learning: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22092985

Re: What the death of iTunes says about digital habits

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>They have no consistent norms of evaluating the quality of their work and their primary purpose is to advance literary explorations over calibration to any particular truth of the matter. This is patently false if you read any critical theory, in which reaching the truth on a matter is taken much more seriously than any literary aim. You can claim that mainstream critical theory didn't or isn't reaching the truth, b…

> They are studied in literary fields not because of the literary value of their writing, but because of their criticism and aesthetic positions. That's pretty hard to distinguish from "just" literature; of course not all literature is fictional or journalistic. But neither criticism nor aesthetics are particularly bounded in their ability to make negative or positive claims due to the flexibility of interpretation o…

>It's inherently subversive of any central and stabilizing intellectual tendency and I think most critical theorists admit their goals as being such.

It's very hard for me to read that as anything but a good thing. It's one thing to say that critical theory has no value, but it's another thing to say its only value is subversion. Nevertheless, if what you're saying is true, then there is no better critic of critical theory than critical theory itself. There are central principles of critical theory (and Horkheimer wrote a whole book about it), and there are results produced by critical theory that the authors present as true (sociologists have taken up the concept of the culture industry and Marcuse's idea of one-dimensionality, for instance). I'm skeptical of the idea that CT is subversive of any tendency - no critical theorist repudiated empirical investigation, for instance. When they do criticize, they don't want to completely do away (Adorno had praise for the enlightenment project). Habermas has been one of the loudest voices against "postmodernism".

> productive operational work (in science in policy or otherwise) always has to maintain some initial set of working goals and assumptions to guide and rationalize action

That's true, but if critical theorists do not question these working goals and assumptions, and the very nature of instrumental reason, who will? It seems to make much more sense, for human emancipation and rationality, to examine what we take for granted and against what background we're working. "Maximally orienting towards further action" is precisely the uncritical approach CTs stand against, where in the same breath we guide the Ministry of War "maximally" towards "further action".

>no they're not worth taking seriously except as a means to an end.

Not only do professional philosophers of all stripes disagree, but career activists agree - a famous critical theorist (lowercase) once said that philosophers had hitherto only interpreted the world; the point is to change it.

>the problem of interpretation in foundations and the way they want to internalize Hegel, while still having the aims of scientific inquiry in mind

Scientific inquiry has many prerequisites, Hegel himself a harsh critic of pure empiricism. The difference in prerequisites is what gives rise to the Anglophone science and the German Wissenschaft.

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First, I agree with you - it's bullshit they took away the features they did. That said, of all the people you know in the Apple ecosystem, how many people know/do the following: know what an id3 tag is, manage the metadata of their digital audio content, listen to audiobooks. Maybe I'm wrong, but most non-nerds I know don't and would not ever want to think about 1 and 2. Plenty of people who fall into 3, but again a…

The vast majority of developers that I know use macs. And not just web developers. That's got to be a sizable userbase, considering that a growing number of non-devs that I know use crappy laptops and instead use their phones for most of their digital needs. Of course I have no idea if this is reflected in the world-wide breakdown of Mac users, but I'd be surprised if the 'programmer' category isn't sizable enough th…

My anecdotal experience is my Mac loyal programmer friends are switching to linux or windows unless they are developing for iOS. Anecdotes are worth what they’re worth, the data says Apple’s market share is holding more or less steady at 7-8%.

It’s hard for me to believe that Apple is or even can dedicate the resources I want want to the laptop/desktop line when iPhones alone make 80% of their revenue. I’ve mostly switched to linux with a windows box when needed.

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