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What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

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Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These jobs basically allow you to take a line of credit out against depreciation on your vehicle. Sure you lost money, but you get cash today.

What does that even mean?

He's saying: Sure it costs me money to maintain the vehicle, but that's tomorrow's me problem. Today I get cash. It's like you took a loan from yourself with your vehicle's health as the collateral.

Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

#102
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These jobs basically allow you to take a line of credit out against depreciation on your vehicle. Sure you lost money, but you get cash today.

Same with pizza delivery since forever.

I don't think that's apples to apples comparison.

As a pizza delivery driver, your pizza shop is your base and you only go out when there's an order that needs to be delivered. My friend used to work at Pizza Hut and he was getting reimbursed for gas (per mile but it was slightly more than his gas mileage so i suppose it covers for wear and tear?).

As far as i know, you're not getting reimbursed for delivering DoorDash and the pickup location could be on the other side of the town.

Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

#103
post #86
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The obvious problem is that I can’t see customers paying that much for delivery - ie. at those wages Door Dash can’t exist." I am 100% ok with DoorDash and that entire market not existing. We somehow managed without it just 3-4 years ago and it's not like Americans need another ridiculously unhealthy eating option provided with even greater convenience.

Pizza, Chinese food etc. delivery has existed forever, and the model for drivers was always the same - get paid nothing and rely on customers tipping you. Now there are billion dollar brands and fancy apps, but on the whole nothing has changed.

Food delivery apps have made 80% of restaurants realize that their customers would pay $8-$10 more per order for delivery. Before that customers didn't have the option and most restaurants just figured it wasn't for them. It's a huge new market.

Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

#104
If consumers aren't willing to pay more, then I truly hope this gigging economy goes down the drain.

I live in a country with extremely strong labor laws, and for the past 3-4 years we've seen more and more of these gigging companies / startups try, and surprise surprise, they're fighting tooth and nail to get around labor laws - because that's where their edge and profitability lies.

This is gonna sound harsh, but If you live in a country with abysmal labor laws, and you're getting exploited by companies like that...well, I don't particularly care. You need to get your laws and rights fixed, that's all I can say.

But to bring this garbage here, that's where I personally draw a line.

Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

#105
post #88

I think legislation is needed for 100% of "gig economy" platforms to in real-time state to the customer exactly how much the service provider is getting paid: how much if my Lyft driver getting - and what cut is Lyft taking, etc.

Consumers need to learn the real value of what's happening, and realize that low prices are not sustainable.

Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

#106
post #88

I think legislation is needed for 100% of "gig economy" platforms to in real-time state to the customer exactly how much the service provider is getting paid: how much if my Lyft driver getting - and what cut is Lyft taking, etc.

Why should the customer care? The driver is the only one in a position to decide if it's a good deal.

Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

#107

I drove for DoorDash for about a month. What killed me was the wait between deliveries. I think it was like 45 minutes on average and when I did get a delivery it was like a tiny $7 delivery. There would be 2 hour stretches of times pretty often. But then once in awhile I'd get a string of maybe 3 or 4 runs that paid like $12. over 2 or 3 hours.It was too inconsistent. Had no idea if I ever got tips, from my understa…

>> There's just too many drivers I think. That's fascinating. Seems like the free market really would drive the wage to 0. DoorDash's "innovation" is the black box to obscure the fact. If they paid more fairly like their competitors, they wouldn't be growing as fast. Seems kindof like a cyberpunk future, with corporations negating regulations through advanced technology. Also in those cyberpunk futures, society break…

If their competitors pay better, why aren't their drivers leaving for the competitors' platforms?

Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

#108

Wow, I don't think I've seen a comment quite this long on HN that failed 100% to provide anything substantive to the conversation. Kudos.

Companies that exploit workers by skirting around labor laws need to be regulated, do you really need more substance than that?

It's not like this a one-off occurrence.

Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

#109

I drove for DoorDash for about a month. What killed me was the wait between deliveries. I think it was like 45 minutes on average and when I did get a delivery it was like a tiny $7 delivery. There would be 2 hour stretches of times pretty often. But then once in awhile I'd get a string of maybe 3 or 4 runs that paid like $12. over 2 or 3 hours.It was too inconsistent. Had no idea if I ever got tips, from my understa…

There is room for Uber-app-in-cloud-emulator multiplexers. As single app endpoint for a variety of delivery apps so you will have more options to choose from when business is slow.

Wouldn't this require access to the companies APIs or scraping them somehow? I don't know that they allow for that.

Re: What DoorDash pays, after expenses, and what’s happening with tips

#110
post #88

I think legislation is needed for 100% of "gig economy" platforms to in real-time state to the customer exactly how much the service provider is getting paid: how much if my Lyft driver getting - and what cut is Lyft taking, etc.

The driver can see this breakdown on every ride and on their weekly statements already. Why would the customer need to know this information?
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