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Re: GoatCounter – Simple web statistics, with no tracking of personal data

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Post by arp242 »

ctoth wrote: post #98

First time I've ever seen a comment about accessibility on the homepage of a mainstream product like this. As a blind developer this was just awesome, made me really feel like somebody out there is listening. Thank you for making this

Cheers. Right now a11y support is a bit like IE11 support: it should work, but it's tested only sporadically since it's rather time-consuming, and as a solo dev time is rather precious. I'm also not blind myself or even a a11y expert so there will probably be some issues I'm just unaware of. I would really appreciate feedback on it, so do get in touch if you have issues.

Also, a11y support isn't just for "blind" or "disabled" users; it tends to make the page better for all users. This applies to everything really; for example while being able to tell coins apart by touch is critical for you, it's also pretty convenient for me at times, so this kind of coin design is better for everyone.

Re: GoatCounter – Simple web statistics, with no tracking of personal data

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Post by pat-leahy »

Carpetsmoker wrote: post #22
mrgreenfur wrote: post #8

How do you know it doesn't need a consent notice? Anything that tracks people uniquely, via a personal identifier, is in-scope and counts as personal data. Is the assumption here that it counts as 'legitimate interest'?

There is no "unique personal identifier"; I have some ideas on how to track recurring visits without such an ID, but that's something for the future. Perhaps I should clarify the README on this a little bit.

The referrer header which is stored may contain a unique personal identifier.

Re: GoatCounter – Simple web statistics, with no tracking of personal data

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Post by nathancahill »

Carpetsmoker wrote: post #66
nathancahill wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh no! What's the source on the indefinite hiatus? I use Fathom for all of my sites. Haven't heard about any of this. Can you point me to anything?

See this issue: https://github.com/usefathom/fathom/issues/268

Thanks

Re: GoatCounter – Simple web statistics, with no tracking of personal data

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Post by ripexz »

doomrobo wrote: post #41

Nice work! Off-topic but remember that you can get a surprising amount of analytics using just your web server logs and no JavaScript at all https://goaccess.io/

Indeed, I've been using goaccess for a while now (https://stats.logpasta.com/) and it suits my basic needs at least seeing what CLI version the few actual visitors I have use.

I haven't had much luck with their "live" report though so I have a Cron job running every few minutes to regenerate it.

Re: GoatCounter – Simple web statistics, with no tracking of personal data

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Post by owenshen24 »

I've been a happy user since you demoed this here last August or so. Have also been pitching it to some friends for their personal sites. I donated for the free tier. Really appreciated your writeup and rationale for providing a free alternative to GA. Thank you for your efforts!

Re: GoatCounter – Simple web statistics, with no tracking of personal data

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Post by gator-io »

kareemm wrote: post #7

Looks nice. I’m somewhat surprised we haven’t seen an obvious alternative to Google Analytics yet. It’s got a wide and deep surface area. But feels like for the majority of eg B2B SaaS apps there’s a much simpler solution to be built. Something that conves mainline scenarios like: - what channels / sites / campaigns is my traffic coming from? - what pages are people landing on? - what pages are driving conversions? -…

full disclosure - I'm a dev there, but Gator Analytics has all those things: https://analytics.gator.io

Re: GoatCounter – Simple web statistics, with no tracking of personal data

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Post by wnevets »

ctoth wrote: post #98

First time I've ever seen a comment about accessibility on the homepage of a mainstream product like this. As a blind developer this was just awesome, made me really feel like somebody out there is listening. Thank you for making this

Does anyone know of a good resource for this?

Re: GoatCounter – Simple web statistics, with no tracking of personal data

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Post by pavon »

WinonaRyder wrote: post #2

Source code: https://github.com/zgoat/goatcounter . The author also gives a rationale for choosing the EUPL (EUROPEAN UNION PUBLIC LICENCE) here: https://www.arp242.net/license.html . EDIT: ksec posted this link: https://github.com/zgoat/goatcounter , but, at the time of writing, my comment is higher... It provides rationale for why GoatCounter exists and comments about _why not_ other solutions like Fathom, Open Web…

I can't say that I agree with that rationale. One of his major requirements is:

> Have a “strong” copyleft, including the so-called “network protection”, which mandates that people submit changes even if they operate the code as a service (rather than sending people binaries).

However the EUPL allows you redistribute under other "compatible" licenses[1] most of which don't provide that "network protection". Effectively, the EUPL is only as strong as the weakest "compatible" license listed in the appendix.

[1] These "compatible" licenses wouldn't otherwise be compatible, except that the EUPL explicitly allows re-licensing to them instead.

Re: GoatCounter – Simple web statistics, with no tracking of personal data

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Post by grovehaw »

wnevets wrote: post #108
ctoth wrote: post #98

First time I've ever seen a comment about accessibility on the homepage of a mainstream product like this. As a blind developer this was just awesome, made me really feel like somebody out there is listening. Thank you for making this

Does anyone know of a good resource for this?

The UK government design system site is a good source for this kind of information [0].

[0] https://design-system.service.gov.uk

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