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Re: Please make your products work with URLs

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Post by irrational »

jchw wrote: post #17

I hate smart TVs with a burning passion. They accomplish literally the bare minimum to keep people happy and sometimes not even that. Samsung’s Tizen OS is the most genuinely frustrating experience I’ve had with a consumer device outside of printing. Advertisements on my home screen that can’t be disabled, dubious privacy, bugs that require me to reboot my TV, and of course security so bad that they recommend install…

The last time I tried to buy a decent TV, I really wanted a non-smart version. It seems that this is an impossible ask. I was even willing to pay extra. Now that I have a smart TV, I really don't understand most of what it does. Whenever I turn it on it is playing some Soccer (Futbol) station. How? I don't know. I don't have cable or an internet connection to the TV. I assume it must be getting it over the air. Can I turn it off. I don't know. I haven't found anyway to do so so far.

Re: Please make your products work with URLs

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Post by anderspitman »

unnouinceput wrote: post #49

Quote "HTTP is the lingua franca of the internet. When you build stuff, please make it work with simple URLs." Says the one who can't have a simple HTTP only site and I had to enable JS on NoScript in order to read his rant.

Please see my explanation here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22038862

Re: Please make your products work with URLs

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Post by WorldMaker »

JohnFen wrote: post #78
babypuncher wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are set top boxes (Apple TV, Nvidia Shield, etc.) that offer a much better user experience with thriving app ecosystems and regular feature updates, if you don't want the rigamarole of trying to use desktop software in a living room. I used to do the whole HTPC thing but having to use an actual web browser to access half my content felt obnoxious and cumbersome. As for avoiding smart TVs, I found it pretty easy…

> There are set top boxes But can any of them be trusted? Serious question...

What's your threat model?

Apple TV is a pragmatic option for the sort of person that doesn't mind the Apple Walled Garden.

Xbox One is a pragmatic option for the sort of person that doesn't mind the Xbox/Microsoft Walled Garden.

NVidia Shield and FireTV are pragmatic options for folks that prefer the more Android-ish "mostly a Walled Garden, but".

If your threat model is anything with a corporate or walled garden smell, then sure none of them can be trusted and just build your own media PC with Linux and whichever apps you feel you can trust.

Re: Please make your products work with URLs

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Post by anderspitman »

beckingz wrote: post #34
gberger wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presumably, he makes _data visualization software_. For example Tableau.

Or builds data visualizations using code. D3 for example.

This. I work on the open source iobio tools: http://iobio.io/

Re: Please make your products work with URLs

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Post by SamBam »

pba wrote: post #14

Maybe this was the whole point of the author's post.. but I'm fairly certain the reason the author's use case is not easily workable is because the OEMs mentioned are deliberately discouraging the ability to play anything that is not inside some sort of DRM control. They don't want you to just be able to play any URL. Its not a technical problem, its a content management problem.

Chromecast allows you to display any arbitrary url, no?

Also, just to understand, what does Roku get out of blocking your ability to potentially see non-DRM content? Is Neflix going to pull their app if Roku starts displaying urls?

Re: Please make your products work with URLs

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Post by gregsadetsky »

AndrewStephens wrote: post #3
dredmorbius wrote: post #2

Irony: blank page w/o JS, fails in Outline.com.

Well this is one way to write a web page.

Perhaps it would have been overall simpler to link directly to the page's markdown content..? :-) https://anderspitman.net/entries/16/entry.md

Re: Please make your products work with URLs

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Post by anderspitman »

danShumway wrote: post #19
droithomme wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, same here with JS. Solid black page, no content. View source indicates about half is some Google analytics boilerplate, the other half is a body consisting entirely of non-functional JS pulls. OP, where is the content stored?

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/anderspitman/anderspitman.... Note for OP: The reason this breaks without Javascript is because it's rendering the Markdown clientside. That could be moved to part of the build process without increasing your hosting requirements at all. I can see that you already have https://github.com/anderspitman/anderspitman.net/blob/master... started, so I'm assuming you know this already and t…

Please see my explanation here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22038862

Re: Please make your products work with URLs

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Post by JohnFen »

WorldMaker wrote: post #105
JohnFen wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There are set top boxes But can any of them be trusted? Serious question...

What's your threat model? Apple TV is a pragmatic option for the sort of person that doesn't mind the Apple Walled Garden. Xbox One is a pragmatic option for the sort of person that doesn't mind the Xbox/Microsoft Walled Garden. NVidia Shield and FireTV are pragmatic options for folks that prefer the more Android-ish "mostly a Walled Garden, but". If your threat model is anything with a corporate or walled garden sme…

> What's your threat model?

Avoiding tracking and phone-home things.

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