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Healthy habits add up to 10 disease-free years to your life, study reveals

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Re: Healthy habits add up to 10 disease-free years to your life, study reveals

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Post by gowld »

mortenjorck wrote: post #50
lelf wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite surprising for me too. Or rather, I don't understand the unit they mention. From the article linked: also collected alcoholic beverage consumption, including red and white wine separately (4 ounces, increasing to 5 ounces in 2006), beer (one glass, can, or bottle), and liquor (one drink or shot). We multiplied the amount of alcohol in grams per specified portion size by servings per day, determined the midpoint…

This left me confused as well. This NHS article on alcohol abuse cleared it up, though: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/alcohol-misuse/ > A unit of alcohol is 8g or 10ml of pure alcohol, which is about: > half a pint of lower to normal-strength lager/beer/cider (ABV 3.6%) > a single small shot measure (25ml) of spirits (25ml, ABV 40%) So a 12oz bottle (.75 pint) of 3.6% beer would be 1.5 NHS units. A bottle of 7.2% sto…

Ah. A USA "drink" is 15ml, so 1.5 UK units.

Re: Healthy habits add up to 10 disease-free years to your life, study reveals

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Post by odonnellryan »

jopsen wrote: post #97

Hmm, the list of habits wasn't even that bad: Don't smoke, drink little, keep a BMI of 18.5 to 24.9, exercise 30min per day, have a diet in the top 40-percentile most healthy. These seems like feasible habits. Sure if you're overweight, smoking or drinking a lot changing the status isn't easy. But you don't have to go vegan :)

But go vegan. It's easy!

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Post by nothrabannosir »

vkou wrote: post #96
DenisM wrote: post #83

> drinking alcohol only in moderation (defined in this study as just under 2 units for women and 4 units for men daily) This part Of “stay healthy” advice has always puzzled me - it looks like full blown alcoholism. Am I way off?

4 units is not 4 beers. A single 7% beer bottle is 3 units. 9 beers a week is... Not quite full-blown alcoholism. But I can see why the study picked that as a threshold.

A 25ml (.8oz) shot of 40% proof is 1 unit. 4 of those per day is one hell of a “healthy habit”.

I don’t know how large beer bottles are in the US, but 330ml (11.2oz) at 7% is 2.3 units.

(These are all European measurements, if that makes a difference. The NHS is in the U.K., though, where 1 unit = 10 ml of pure alcohol).

Re: Healthy habits add up to 10 disease-free years to your life, study reveals

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Post by newnewpdro »

giardini wrote: post #71

Leaving sex out of the equation was an unfortunate oversight. STDs cause a lot of grief and arguably as much or more damage than diet. AIDS speaks for itself; herpes is implicated in Alzheimer's, heart disease and other ailments and is just a general curse without the modern antivirals (although many persons are naturally immune); gonorrhea and syphilis continue to mutate to new drug-resistant forms.

Not to mention having children, which if my experience is any indication is the #1 reason parents use for being overweight and unfit, not having time and/or energy to properly care for themselves now that they have kids.

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Post by bosie »

Someone1234 wrote: post #88
bosie wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't your two links not showing your earlier claims? The claim was that they stick to it, the outcome/benefits of sticking to it weren't disputed. I am asking because I also can't believe that people stick to IM or HIIT long term.

Both of my links very specifically look at adherence rates. > Results: Dietary adherence remained high throughout the controlled food intake phase (days adherent: 86%) and the self-selected food intake phase (days adherent: 89%). And: > For both groups, moderate intensity, intermittent exercise showed excellent adherence and this may be a useful model for future research studies. So I'm not sure, having read both lin…

Both of your links have nothing to do with general population adherence rate though. They are adherence rates within a pre-selected group of people for a specific study (apologies if i am reading this wrong).

I was actually surprised by the low adherence rate. The studies were done on small sets of folks for a very short period of time (2/8months) with little effort to adhere and yet the participants couldn't even do that. I figured adherence rates for this would actually be 100%. After all, the researchers asked for 6 minutes a day, 5 days a week.

The question I was interested in is roughly: If i randomly select 1000 people from the population and introduce them to HIIT, how many will do it 3-5 times a week 6/12/18/24 months after the introduction without any reporting and supervision?

Again, sorry if i am totally misunderstanding the links.

Re: Healthy habits add up to 10 disease-free years to your life, study reveals

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Post by gowld »

52-6F-62 wrote: post #34
maximente wrote: post #29

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haha, this reads like some abstinence only sex education argument or something. don't let that one beer turn in to a good time! i think it's funny that having a good (if not optimally healthy) time would be so ridiculed, but maybe that's just me. FWIW i know a lot of people who work out at 4:30am in order to gain that time for after work social activities which often include alcohol, so not mutually exclusive.

I'm one of those people. Rather, it's gym at 5:30/6:00 AM so that I don't have to go later. Then I can have a pizza day and not feel guilty. Life's too short to live so puritanically, if you ask me. Some of the biggest eaters and drinkers I've known were also some of the highest performing athletes. I'm not fond of the habit of isolating each of these habits as if each of them are as statistically effective as they a…

A pizza a day, or a slice of pizza a day?

The secret of junk foot is that junk food makes your mouth feel good for 20mminutes, but healthy food makes your body feel good all day, and gives you an energy level to live more actively.

Re: Healthy habits add up to 10 disease-free years to your life, study reveals

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Post by alanbernstein »

tomp wrote: post #92

> having a healthy diet score in the top 40% of people in the study Correlation does not equal causation. It's obvious from this statement that the relationship is not (necessarily) causal. Yeah "top 10% of the people in study live longer" isn't really revolutionary.

Yeah, that's a funny way for them to phrase it. I think the point is that you don't need a nearly-unachievable "top 5% diet" to be a healthy person - you just need to put in a little effort.

Re: Healthy habits add up to 10 disease-free years to your life, study reveals

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Post by gowld »

JamesBarney wrote: post #58
capkutay wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also have to factor in the opportunity cost of drinking...going for a drink after work instead of the gym? What comes next? Bar food with your beer and maybe a pizza? I'd rather have the work out, good meal, hydrate, and get good sleep. It's obvious that good habits snowball into more good habits, while bad habits snowball into more bad habits.

Drinkers actually exercise more. So maybe they don't quite snowball. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2747097/

More accurate to say drinkers "self report that they exercise about 10-15% more than non drinkers do."

It's possible drinking impacts their self reports :-)

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