Oslo had 0 pedestrian, 0 cyclist, 0 children and 1 driver trafic deaths in 2019

Post by vegardx » Thu, Jan 02, 2020, 11:42 AM UTC

kortilla wrote: post #92

yason wrote: post #80

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pedestrians do cross the street when it's red for them You have to think what pedestrian lights are for. They exist solely to improve the flow of car traffic. Pedestrian lights are in gross contrast to the rights and benefits of pedestrians. Without lights, pedestrians would always have first priority on a crosswalk. Cars would have to stop for any pedestrian crossing the street. However, drivers (of inefficient but…

Do trains stop for pedestrians crossing the tracks where you’re from? That sounds very inefficient.

Post by oneeyedpigeon » Thu, Jan 02, 2020, 11:43 AM UTC

Reason077 wrote: post #85

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same in the UK. but more than that, in the UK in any intersection with traffic lights the pedestrians will never have a green light at the same time as cars. meanwhile, in most countries i've visited making a left or a right turn in an intersection will most likely cause you to stop for pedestrians that also get a green light. frustrating and illogical!

”in the UK in any intersection with traffic lights the pedestrians will never have a green light at the same time as cars.” 3-phase signalled intersections (where pedestrians get a green signal to cross in all directions) are a relatively new development in the UK. They’re certainly common in London but I’d be very surprised if they’re rolled out to all intersections the UK.

Post by semi-extrinsic » Thu, Jan 02, 2020, 11:48 AM UTC

Post by kabacha » Thu, Jan 02, 2020, 11:52 AM UTC

paozac wrote: post #86

Rome has probably the worst record: 111 traffic deaths from January to November 2019.

Post by tallanvor » Thu, Jan 02, 2020, 11:52 AM UTC

AdrianB1 wrote: post #88

mongol wrote: post #2

That is amazing. It is easy to imagine that safer cars have contributed most to this. But there are so many other factors.. emergency response, alcohol, road quality, weather... I wonder how it would break down, if it was possible to measure it all.

It explains in another article linked in a comment: Oslo is virtually car-free. Heaving deadly accidents between cyclists and pedestrians is possible, but very rare, so the accidents disappeared because the main actor (cars) disappeared. It sounds obvious - if you want to eliminate car accidents, eliminate cars, this is what they did.