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Re: Escaping San Francisco

#101
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This story makes no sense. $3700 can get you a nice 1 bedroom anywhere in SF, so it’s unclear why they couldn’t have found another place. If you’re renting, you find mold, and your landlord does nothing then by CA law you have the right to break your lease for unsafe living conditions. The author’s LinkedIn is filled with executive/founder/CEO roles (and claiming a 7 figure exit) and yet still needing to use GoFundMe…

That's kind of the point. The mould can cause psychological problems. Initially, you think it's merely unsightly so you develop health problems. And then you don't have the ability to understand it clearly.

(Which is not to say I necessarily believe the story, but it's not completely implausible.)

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#102
post #39

This story makes no sense. $3700 can get you a nice 1 bedroom anywhere in SF, so it’s unclear why they couldn’t have found another place. If you’re renting, you find mold, and your landlord does nothing then by CA law you have the right to break your lease for unsafe living conditions. The author’s LinkedIn is filled with executive/founder/CEO roles (and claiming a 7 figure exit) and yet still needing to use GoFundMe…

Currently paying $4200 for a 3 Bedroom 3 Bath fully detached single family house West of Twin Peaks (Midtown Terrace.) Giving up walkability for completing errands, I gain a private locking front porch where packages are never stolen, and lots of mold from living on fog laden Twin Peaks. On the whole, San Francisco is fairly damp; ensuring good ventilation is key - along with weekly maintenance to alleviate mold and keep things “clean.”

I don’t expect to have everything done for me either; there’s lots of un-fun tasks to complete around here. While deferred maintenance issues are a landlord’s responsibility to correct; the tenants could have taken a more proactive approach to remediation of the mold; or any other nonissue complaint lodged against San Francisco.

As a QA Engineer, I have an unfair advantage when it comes to understanding the need to mitigate risk. Seems this couple makes decisions without any regard to future consequences.

1. Didn’t mention whether or not they discussed the condition of the property with the current tenants in the building or any neighbors prior to signing the lease. 2. Clearly no understanding of tenant rights and responsibilities; would have known that rent can be withheld for fixing things. 3. Didn’t get mold coverage riders on renters insurance; yet has lived in a damp city for much of their lives. 4. Orders packages to an apartment without any way to safely store them; taking into account any/all edge cases 5. Didn’t do homework / ask questions to landlord regarding package delivery best practices for tenants back before lease signed in ‘15. 6. Didn’t see if other alternatives existed for broken doorbell. 7. Cancels health insurance because they couldn’t help with costs from the mold situation; forgets that a multitude of other accidents, trauma, and sickness still occur in the present and future.

All of their complaints seem to come back to being unprepared for handling problems that appear in life.

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#103
post #3

As someone planning to move to San Francisco from outside the US soon, is living in SF really as bad as all the blogs make it to be? I chose SF mainly because of its proximity to the outdoors (which I value highly) and relative lack of a concrete jungle feeling compared to NYC EDIT: I have visited SF a few times for work before, and found the homelessness and filth to be confined to a few neighborhoods..

One of the cliche transplants from SF to NYC: The lack of concrete jungle, and that desire from people both who predated the tech deluge and those who arrived because of it (like you are planning to be) is precisely why it has become as bad as the blogs make it to be. I think some things are not as bad as the blogs make it be, and many things a lot worse. In the latter category: - there is now a "fire season". Yes, t…

>diversity shrinks every year. It gets more white/asian, more male, more single/childless, more tech, and more techie-centric entertainment, and less everything else everyday

You say that as if it's a bad thing. As NYC gets more "diverse", crime is going up, educational achievement slows down, and Whites/Asians with money flee.

>It is incredibly relieving to see NYC being run extremely competently in contrast

NYC is so disgustingly mismanaged and poorly ran... Hilarious! They literally had to be bailed out due to the years of decay and mismanagement. The public transportation in NYC is some of the worst in the modern world. It's ancient infrastructure is crumbling to a halt by the day.

>imo the summers here are better, the winters perfectly tolerable

Summers in California are better, and winters are an order of magnitude better. Nothing like not being able to walk outside because it's iced and snowing for two weeks in below freezing temperatures.

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#104
This is promoting victim culture. Many red flags and many GoFundMe links.

If you can’t afford a lifestyle, move. If you can’t afford the lifestyle, but continue to live there, don’t create a gofundme and craft a sob story highlighting your negligence.

On a positive note, you can get a job, graduate high school, and not have kids out of wedlock (dogs are not cheap either). You have all 3 of those going for you. You are tougher than you think.

You should reject all of those GoFundMe dollars or have a plan to repay people who donated.

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The doorbell story made me stop and question the article. You can get a digital door bell on Amazon for $15. It didn’t occur to the author to do so for 9 months? Edit: I didn’t want to imply that the author is lying. Hopefully he is able to get healthy again. But when someone is asking for money and their story has some odd holes in it, I think it’s only natural to be skeptical.

Tenants shouldn't pay to maintain the property, that's what they're paying exorbitant monthly fees for.

Shouldn't, yes. But why would you choose nine months of inconvenience over paying $10 for a new doorbell yourself? What kind of rational decision is that? How are they valuing their time here?

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#106

> We eventually discovered the apartment building we were living in was built in 1908. Yes, we were living in a “sick” building that was over 100 years old, and never knew. We even found photos of our former apartment in historical archives dating back to the 1920’s. Is being just a hundred years old some kind of inherent problem? Obviously rotting is bad but they talk about discovering that it existed in 1908 like t…

There’s a craftsmanship to a certain kind of old home, that in my opinion — if well maintained — can be superior to a lot of new construction. The trend towards making new homes super “tight” created all sorts of ventilation issues that took a while for the industry to sort out. Nicely designed old homes breath. That’s key to keeping mold away. What often messes up old homes is some crappy renovation work that negatively impacts the building’s envelope.

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

God, unfortunately, yes.

Let's be realistic. Do you think even 1% of health care expenditures are paid by Go Fund Me appeals?

I doubt it, but, I have been hit up for Go Fund Me money multiple times by people trying to cover unexpected medical expenses. They included friends, neighbors, and my literal actual boss. So, while I doubt it's an appreciable amount in absolute terms, it definitely seems normal.

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#109
post #3

As someone planning to move to San Francisco from outside the US soon, is living in SF really as bad as all the blogs make it to be? I chose SF mainly because of its proximity to the outdoors (which I value highly) and relative lack of a concrete jungle feeling compared to NYC EDIT: I have visited SF a few times for work before, and found the homelessness and filth to be confined to a few neighborhoods..

It surely depends on what you consider "the outdoors" and what your baseline for proximity is, but speaking as someone whose definition of outdoor recreation skews towards mountain sports in both summer and winter I would not consider SF to be proximate to the outdoors and would recommend looking further north (Portland, Seattle, Vancouver) if you want to live somewhere urban-ish and have quick, regular access to the backcountry.

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the "SF is a dystopian nightmare" posts are referring to a few downtown neighborhoods which represent probably less than 5% of the city by land area. LOL Downtown neighborhoods? Like the Haight? Potrero? SOMA? the Tenderloin? the Mission? Western Addition? Fisherman's Wharf / Aquatic Park? Homelessness and grime isn't endemic to "downtown" San Francisco. Most of the tent cities I've seen in San Francisco are in S…

Most of those neighborhoods are downtown... the others have some issues but aren't what people are referring to when they say "dystopian nightmare". That's mainly just Tenderloin/Soma/Civic Center, and a bit that radiates into adjoining neighborhoods from there. Moderate homelessness is sadly an issue in any large Western city, so if you want to avoid it completely, you'll have to go to a smaller city or the suburbs…

Most of those neighborhoods are downtown

None of those neighborhoods are downtown, check a map. Whoever did the wikipedia box lumps SOMA and TL in with little alleyways in the Financial District (a.k.a. downtown) that they're trying to pass off as neighborhoods.

the others have some issues

Some issues? When I was working in Potrero we had a bike chop shop right behind the building and 3-4 encampments within a 2 minute walk. Unlike when I worked in the Tenderloin the folks out in Potrero weren't junkies. Instead they presented with what seemed like schizophrenia. There was a lot more screaming and fighting than I was used to.

The Haight (which is also not downtown) has been luring street kids for more than half a century. In my time in the city the Haight is consistently one of the least pleasant places to walk around because the homeless folks were dramatically more aggressive than other parts of the city.

SOMA? Go visit Rainbow, and then head down Folsom (which is very much not downtown) at night after all the tents have been deployed and tell me that's a minor problem. There are fewer large encampments in the western neighborhoods but vacant lots and storefronts will find folks to live in them quickly.

Go further up Market to the Castro (also not downtown). Jane Warner Plaza has been a magnet for nudists and homeless folks pretty much since its inception a decade ago.

A few weeks ago I went to see a show in Bernal and there was a morbidly obese guy sprawled out on the sidewalk across the street from the venue. He wasn't yelling at anyone in particular so I just ignored him. Fast forward a week and I was walking around the same stretch of Mission St and came across (among other things) bloody hand prints smeared on the side of a building.

Oh? And downtown? I worked downtown (Embarcadero) for a while. After the whole occupy movement fizzled out there were plenty of people living behind Steuart by the bocce ball courts. Lower Manhattan is far more sanitized, even at night.

There's just a constant level of unmitigated human suffering in San Francisco that you don't see in other cities, and it's not limited to "a few neighborhoods that amount to 5% of San Francisco".

There also aren't any neighborhoods in Manhattan or central London/Paris/Sydney/etc. where you won't find any homeless people or some grime on the streets.

Yeah I've been to all of those cities within the past five years and none are as disgusting as San Francisco. London's pretty grimy, but San Francisco has mechanical street sweepers (and has for years) to clear the fecal matter off the sidewalk. No other city I've visited actually needs that.

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