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U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

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Re: U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

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Since I’ve seen this asked elsewhere: There is a legitimate usage for these kinds of apps on some devices. Armed services recruiters tend to use various social media apps to communicate with people they are trying to recruit.

I suppose the message that is sent here is : 'if you want to recruit you'll have to do it on Snapchat, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, or Facebook instead of the one Chinese based app'

Is that not fair?

Re: U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

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Doesn't matter, they have it on their personal phone. App security is so bad that you pretty much need to virtualize the phone and feed it fake sensor data. The whole idea of unrestricted network access is stupid.

> App security is so bad that you pretty much need to virtualize the phone and feed it fake sensor data.

Yeah, this is really bizarre to me. I was trying to check on volume levels through walls in my apartment, so I wanted to find some random decibel measuring app and lock it down so I don't have to worry too much about trusting it. But somehow Apple's permission model, which provides a whole pile of privilege switches including mobile data, has no way to completely revoke Internet privileges for an app.

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Tiktok should be kicked out from our country. Chinese government ban everything(google, facebook, twitter, instgram, ...) of our country, why their company can make money in our country?

Because the U.S. tends toward having a free market?

I am genuinely curious here, when one player has a free market and the other does not, how do you think that will work out? Do you believe that America can remain dominant while its companies get 85% access to the world population and Chinese companies get 100% access? I honestly don't understand this attitude, yes free markets are great as long as your counter parties are free market economies also, but China has been proven to be anything but

Re: U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

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Doesn't matter, they have it on their personal phone. App security is so bad that you pretty much need to virtualize the phone and feed it fake sensor data. The whole idea of unrestricted network access is stupid.

How would restricted network access help? If you permit a dodgy app to talk to only one remote endpoint, it can exfiltrate whatever it wants.

Re: U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

#105

Doesn't matter, they have it on their personal phone. App security is so bad that you pretty much need to virtualize the phone and feed it fake sensor data. The whole idea of unrestricted network access is stupid.

> The whole idea of unrestricted network access is stupid. I've been coming around to a similar idea. I'd like a setup something like this for my desktop: 1. Some devices representing network connections. One or more are "real"; others may be VPNs. 2. Per-application settings governing which network devices, if any, the application may use. Default to none. For example, the common way to use a VPN is like this: 1. St…

You can have per-application IP routing if you run applications within individual Linux containers. E.g.:

  sudo pflask --netif=macvlan:enp4s0:net0 tmux
Then inside tmux run a VPN client and the sensitive application.

Re: U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

#106

Doesn't matter, they have it on their personal phone. App security is so bad that you pretty much need to virtualize the phone and feed it fake sensor data. The whole idea of unrestricted network access is stupid.

Good luck figuring out a sane UI for that for average mobile user.

Re: U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

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Doesn't matter, they have it on their personal phone. App security is so bad that you pretty much need to virtualize the phone and feed it fake sensor data. The whole idea of unrestricted network access is stupid.

> App security is so bad that you pretty much need to virtualize the phone and feed it fake sensor data. Yeah, this is really bizarre to me. I was trying to check on volume levels through walls in my apartment, so I wanted to find some random decibel measuring app and lock it down so I don't have to worry too much about trusting it. But somehow Apple's permission model, which provides a whole pile of privilege switch…

I’ve found blocking an iPhone on my WiFi AP effectively cuts it off from the net. It may have cell, but I think iOS prioritizes the WiFi connection because it’s live to the AP, even though all requests stop there.

Re: U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

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Since I’ve seen this asked elsewhere: There is a legitimate usage for these kinds of apps on some devices. Armed services recruiters tend to use various social media apps to communicate with people they are trying to recruit.

Security researchers have a legitimate use of computer viruses. Behavioural analysis or whatever else. Does your grandma have the same legitimate use case?

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Re: U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the U.S. tends toward having a free market?

I am genuinely curious here, when one player has a free market and the other does not, how do you think that will work out? Do you believe that America can remain dominant while its companies get 85% access to the world population and Chinese companies get 100% access? I honestly don't understand this attitude, yes free markets are great as long as your counter parties are free market economies also, but China has be…

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Re: U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

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Doesn't matter, they have it on their personal phone. App security is so bad that you pretty much need to virtualize the phone and feed it fake sensor data. The whole idea of unrestricted network access is stupid.

but government issued phones have access to things personal phones don't.
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