United States to fund gun-violence research after 20-year freeze

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 5:35 AM UTC

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>and no one would freak out about if they had wooden stocks. Yeah, this. It's sort of developed into a moral panic because so many in the media grow up in urban centers on the east coast and don't have much contact with firearms. The reporting becomes pretty tainted, and in some cases hilariously inaccurate.

The majority of people live in urban centers. One of the biggest difficulties in modern America is bridging the urban/rural divide: My father, living in a rural area, purchased a shotgun for home defense -- when 911 was accidentally dialed, the sheriff's response time was roughly 30 minutes. Their primary political concerns revolve around taxes and regulation. Sometimes a bear walks through the neighbor's yard. At ou…

Post by glenstein » Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 5:39 AM UTC

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So we should be confiscating guns on one's 45th birthday? Probably not all that effective, but it's a start I guess.

Alternatively, you can just repeal the second amendment. I’m unsure why anti-gun advocates don’t just argue this. The constitution can be changed. Justice Stevens argued this in an op-ed: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/03/27/opin...

Post by ip26 » Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 5:42 AM UTC

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They also have a history of anti malaria bias. Public health agency finds that guns kill people, recommends fewer guns, news at 11

How is malaria comparable to guns? Is malaria in the Constitution? Does Americans have a malaria culture?

Post by ip26 » Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 5:44 AM UTC

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They also have a history of anti malaria bias. Public health agency finds that guns kill people, recommends fewer guns, news at 11

cars kill thousands of kids, recommend fewer cars swimming pools kill a thousand, recommend banning swimming pools drugs kill a thousand, make drugs illegal with huge jail terms. wait, that doesn't work. why are there thousands of kids handling guns fine without accidents in rural areas and thousands getting killed by a few hundred in urban areas. it's much more complex than just fewer guns, no private pool ownership…

Post by hellisothers » Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 5:44 AM UTC

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It’s a common contention of the gun advocacy community that it’s ignorance that drives awb, but that flies in the face of the evidence that veterans are disproportionately represented in elected officials, police officers are consulted when drafting the legislation & its a subject that is easily researchable. I think it’s more likely that the people who are politically motivated around this issue represent the extrem…

when "police officers are consulted when drafting the legislation" - they could have their own protection interest in mind more than yours. When they choose to carry 'high capacity magazines', SBRs (real pia to get for non-leo) - and other weaponry, it is understood these things help them be safer... If grandma is not allowed to be safer because random bad guy - you have to wonder, or should maybe.