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New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by dvirsky »

dgemm wrote: post #87
oceliker wrote: post #39

> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

Two years ago they would have been finding a way to add blockchain.

"With our advanced Proof of Sleep algorithm... In the cloud..."

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by epse »

mappu wrote: post #45
oceliker wrote: post #39

> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

> Have cameras pointed at every flyer for the duration of the flight, for the incredibly minor benefit of stopping your movie? I flew on an Emirates A380 recently that had a front-facing camera in the IFE system. I'm not sure what its intended purpose was - perhaps to allow video calls? I had no way to tell if it was in-use during the flight, but i assume there were already other cameras in the main passenger cabin w…

It is for video calls. Depending on your class, you can video call the flight attendants

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by [deleted] »

dgemm wrote: post #87
oceliker wrote: post #39

> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

Two years ago they would have been finding a way to add blockchain.

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Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by bigiain »

blackguardx wrote: post #54
oceliker wrote: post #39

> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

I'm pretty sure many airlines already have cameras looking at your face. The last few international United Airlines flights I was on had IR LEDs just below the seat entertainment screen shining in my face the whole flight. I worked for an 3D camera company at the time and was pretty tuned in to IR (~850 nm) LED's dim red glow. There is no reason for them being there unless there are cameras looking at your face.

Next minute: DHS adds PostIt notes to the list of banned items in aircraft cabins...

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by ggm »

TheGallopedHigh wrote: post #74
ggm wrote: post #34

Looks like a fundamentally acceptable design change, which will probably be white-anted out of deployment on cost, or fashion grounds. I think seating in airlines demands regulation. I don't think we will see change here without it, because unlike Premium Economy and Business, where pricing differentiation justifies the spend (the increase in revenue outweighs the engineering costs significantly: Aircraft would be vi…

White-anted? Never heard this term before.

Sorry, accidentally used an Australianism. It means putting up a million minor issues behind your back and generally eroding belief in things like white ants (termites) attacking a wooden stump on your house. Secretly undermining.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by saagarjha »

ObsoleteNerd wrote: post #44
saagarjha wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I only need enough space to lie sideways with my phone in front of my face This sounds like it'd get a lot more uncomfortable than sitting pretty quickly.

Each to their own. I sleep on my side so that’s all the space I’d need to rest and read or watch something on my phone for a while then sleep for the rest of the trip. I’d rather sleep through flights than sit uncomfortably crammed into the pathetically small chairs they give you these days.

If you're just sleeping I can see it being fine. I'm just concerned that doing anything other than that will be uncomfortable.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by ggm »

nanokilo wrote: post #67
ggm wrote: post #34

Looks like a fundamentally acceptable design change, which will probably be white-anted out of deployment on cost, or fashion grounds. I think seating in airlines demands regulation. I don't think we will see change here without it, because unlike Premium Economy and Business, where pricing differentiation justifies the spend (the increase in revenue outweighs the engineering costs significantly: Aircraft would be vi…

On the other hand, if an airline offered these seats, I'd definitely choose them over the competition. Better seats might not drive more seat upgrades, but it might drive more traffic to your airline.

Absolutely agree. If the marginal cost of this on a seat during a refit which has to happen anyway is low, could happen and could be a deal-breaker once word leaks out. Cathay made economy cramped, people went to Emirates. This could be a fight back move to regain lost market share?

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by walrus01 »

dgemm wrote: post #87
oceliker wrote: post #39

> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

Two years ago they would have been finding a way to add blockchain.

I'm sure somewhere on Earth right now there is already a startup based on block chain storage of convolutional neural network learning face recognition.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by Nursie »

singron wrote: post #10
ccamrobertson wrote: post #6

Those look like Premium Economy seats based on their generous width, not the crushing 17"-and-change width of typical Economy seats.

All the pictures are of women in the seats. Men often have broader shoulders and larger upper arms. If I sit next to another man, we sometimes make contact on the upper arms for most the flight. The wings seem to take up a couple inches themselves, so it could become too cramped horizontally to be comfortable.

Yup, she's tiny and those wings look like they take up a whole bunch of shoulder-space.
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