Did anyone else smell poop while reading this? (there's gotta be a word for that effect)
Well, now it's the Zhou effect. Congrats!
Trends in the San Francisco (mostly dog?) poop crisis
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Re: Trends in the San Francisco (mostly dog?) poop crisis
#102More broadly, the San Francisco livability crisis is out of control. Poop is only a visible and easily disagreeable symptom of the broader problem. The local government can patch symptoms of the problem but some of them (housing, mental health, opioid epidemic) are state-level or national problems that the local government have very little power or ability to solve. Some of the law and order issues are issues the loc…
Genuine (outsider) question: how is housing not a uniquely-SF problem? The rest of the country and even other parts of California seem to have affordable housing, at least relatively speaking. EDIT: RE downvotes, shame on me for not being familiar with SF politics, I guess. It is, after all, the center of the universe. (◔_◔)
It's not at all a SF problem, it's a metropolitan city problem. NYC, Boston, Denver, Austin, Boise, both Portlands, etc all have the same housing crisis.
The truth is well-paying (i.e. middle class) jobs are coalescing in a small number of cities which have failed to adapt to the growth. As a software engineer this means I can either make great money in one of the aforementioned cities or a fraction of it in an "off-brand" city. Lucky for me I can afford to pay out the nose for my apartment but this causes incredible pressure on the housing supply, especially for those less well-off.
Re: Trends in the San Francisco (mostly dog?) poop crisis
#103Can human genome be sequenced from human poop? With sequencing getting so cheap, this might be an cheap data source for Hooli and the likes.
Yes it can, and that method has been used to capture badly-behaved pet owners. There's even a startup for it: pooprints.
Oh… wow. It's like 23andme but for dog poop.
Re: Trends in the San Francisco (mostly dog?) poop crisis
#104More broadly, the San Francisco livability crisis is out of control. Poop is only a visible and easily disagreeable symptom of the broader problem. The local government can patch symptoms of the problem but some of them (housing, mental health, opioid epidemic) are state-level or national problems that the local government have very little power or ability to solve. Some of the law and order issues are issues the loc…
Genuine (outsider) question: how is housing not a uniquely-SF problem? The rest of the country and even other parts of California seem to have affordable housing, at least relatively speaking. EDIT: RE downvotes, shame on me for not being familiar with SF politics, I guess. It is, after all, the center of the universe. (◔_◔)
The parts of California which don’t have a housing problem are, broadly speaking, the parts of California which aren’t attractive to a ton of people as places to live.
The root cause is prop 13 disincentivizes moving around keeping the supply illiquid, and encourages ninbyism preventing new construction, as you’re basically locked in whenever you currently live.
Re: Trends in the San Francisco (mostly dog?) poop crisis
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn't mind half the police force being reassigned to fine the sort of people who let their dog shit and run. My buddy had a small garden patch on the sidewalk in front of his house. It was the only patch of garden on the block, so it was basically chock full of dog feces within a day after he cleaned it from people walking their dogs. You'd get a whiff of it just walking to his house. He eventually had the tiny…
Yeh! I think it would really help law enforcement community relations if they moved away from ticketing people for violating letter of the law rules (street sweeping hours, etc.) and started ticketing people for stuff that lowers quality of life in the city: taking up two parking spots by not pulling forward all the way, not picking up dog poop, parking in bike lanes, etc.
Didn't we just elect a new DA who has openly stated he will not prosecute any quality of life crimes?
Re: Trends in the San Francisco (mostly dog?) poop crisis
#106Can human genome be sequenced from human poop? With sequencing getting so cheap, this might be an cheap data source for Hooli and the likes.
In a dystopian future, pooping at shopping malls and retail establishments could be harvested by data brokers for advertising purposes.
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#107Mods - can we update the title to “San Francisco dog poop crisis” ? Note that the category of tickets in 311 is “Human / Animal waste”. I personally went through 100 random tickets on the sf data portal and found that 95% were either dog poop or miss classified (eg abandoned car or trash collection). People automatically read the headline and correlate to human waste.
Oh come on, we all know it's not because of the dogs. San francisco is in the midst of a homelessness crisis, and all that comes with that.
A response of "oh, come on, we all know.." to someone that said they personally went through 100 tickets is not really contributing much. Worse, actually, as presenting your assumptions without evidence as counterfactuals to someone that purports to have actually done legwork actively muddies the discussion.
Re: Trends in the San Francisco (mostly dog?) poop crisis
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Genuine (outsider) question: how is housing not a uniquely-SF problem? The rest of the country and even other parts of California seem to have affordable housing, at least relatively speaking. EDIT: RE downvotes, shame on me for not being familiar with SF politics, I guess. It is, after all, the center of the universe. (◔_◔)
It's not at all a SF problem, it's a metropolitan city problem. NYC, Boston, Denver, Austin, Boise, both Portlands, etc all have the same housing crisis. The truth is well-paying (i.e. middle class) jobs are coalescing in a small number of cities which have failed to adapt to the growth. As a software engineer this means I can either make great money in one of the aforementioned cities or a fraction of it in an "off-…
> It's not at all a SF problem, it's a metropolitan city problem. NYC, Boston, Denver, Austin, Boise, both Portlands, etc all have the same housing crisis.
I was responding to the claim that it's a state- or national-level problem. Perhaps you would argue that this meets some criteria for being a 'national-level' problem, but it's not obvious to me.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ok, I put dogs in there in parens. Open to better suggestions.
I don't think that's accurate as well. Since it is not all dog. Lol, I know it is hard. May be just say "dog and human" ?
Ok, I've squeezed in mostly.
Edit: since other commenters are still questioning this, I've put a question mark on that bit.
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Give them a better place to do drugs; a place where they get free needles and can throw away the old ones properly (so they won't leave them lying about).
Im just curious if there are any examples of this kind of attitude actually working instead of just attracting more homeless people. So far it seems like San Francisco's policy of not enforcing basic quality of life laws has not made homeless people say "oh gee they sure are nice not to arrest me for dealing drugs and smashing car windows. To thank them I will not poop in the street."
take a look at germany. they concentrate asocials in special places that are easy to control, clean, and in high traffic areas where they cannot harm lone passing-by pedestrians. win-win-win