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Google chief: I'd disclose smart speakers before guests enter my home

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Re: Google chief: I'd disclose smart speakers before guests enter my home

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Google could have the device say that it records conversations the moment it detects an unknown voice. Google could even ask that unknown voice for consent.

Isn't the voice recognition done on Google's servers? How can Google record the voice, send it to its servers, decide that it is someone unknown and play the consent notification if the person has not already given consent?

Verify the voices which are known locally. If it isn't a known voice, it is an unknown one, and consent must be given.

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FWIW, I'm living a Google-free live now, and it works very well: - DuckDuckGo as default search engine - Own domain for email, forwarded to Apple's mail - Apple map, Yandex map, Waze, Here WeGo for maps (depending on the country) - For videos, I search them in DDG with " !yt", then copy the links I want and download them with `youtube-dl` - Firefox and Safari - Zoho as a replacement for online docs and spreadsheets e…

You've certainly reduced your Google footprint. I don't think it's possible to reduce it to zero though.

Re: Google chief: I'd disclose smart speakers before guests enter my home

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FWIW, I'm living a Google-free live now, and it works very well: - DuckDuckGo as default search engine - Own domain for email, forwarded to Apple's mail - Apple map, Yandex map, Waze, Here WeGo for maps (depending on the country) - For videos, I search them in DDG with " !yt", then copy the links I want and download them with `youtube-dl` - Firefox and Safari - Zoho as a replacement for online docs and spreadsheets e…

Just a heads-up: Waze is owned by Google [1] now.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waze#Google_subsidiary

Re: Google chief: I'd disclose smart speakers before guests enter my home

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How is this even legal if wiretapping is illegal in many places?

I wish I could record my phone calls. It would be easy for Google to add that function to Android but they don't. I assume it's due to legal problems. On the other hand, they sell devices that record all conversations in a home.

If they want to put the responsibility on the owner then do that. Add recording to Android. Otherwise, be consistent with your other products and turn off automatic recording.

Re: Google chief: I'd disclose smart speakers before guests enter my home

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

All "big tech" are at it, I tried to go to "My Pictures" the other day and microsoft asked me to run my pictures through facial recognition. They said that by consenting I was asserting I had the consent of anyone who appeared in any of my photos or might appear in future which is insane to ask of anyone, no-one can really give that third party consent. Then when I refused they showed me a nag screen which didn't hav…

Google has implemented this asshole design/nagware in many products to push unnecessary to me and invasive data collection or functionality I want won’t be available. For example, their maps app on iOS won’t save locations for me unless I sign in an enable web history tracking. I get prompted every time I try to save a pin as well as every once in a while I’m case I change my mind. It’s a free app and it’s Google’s p…

Have yo tried maps.me on IOS?

I can't speak for their privacy practices, but it has the bifg advantage of letting you download maps to use them off-line.

Re: Google chief: I'd disclose smart speakers before guests enter my home

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Why would anyone come back to a home after such a warning? Think back 20 years. Would you come back to a home after the resident switched on audio and video recorders and said "you're being recorded." Now come back to the present, and add the word "thermostat." Does it make any difference?

The Nest thermostats don’t have microphones. Houses have had security cameras long before Google existed, as have a large percentage of retail businesses, banks, gas stations, convenience stores, government offices.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

All "big tech" are at it, I tried to go to "My Pictures" the other day and microsoft asked me to run my pictures through facial recognition. They said that by consenting I was asserting I had the consent of anyone who appeared in any of my photos or might appear in future which is insane to ask of anyone, no-one can really give that third party consent. Then when I refused they showed me a nag screen which didn't hav…

I wonder why does Google need the web activity to be turned on for subscribing to the Podcasts? Is there any realistic reasoning for it?

I bet they run targeted advertising in the podcast based on each listener’s web activity. Now I’m dreading the day YouTube makes the switch and doesn’t let you watch any monetized videos unless you consent to being tracked.

Re: Google chief: I'd disclose smart speakers before guests enter my home

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I have an ordinary thermostat that doesn't need firmware, an internet connection, or to eavesdrop on my conversations. It works great! What exactly is the advantage here?

They aren’t talking about Nest thermostats, which don’t have a mic. They are talking about the Nest Cam, and now the Google Home which has been rebranded a Nest device.

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FWIW, I'm living a Google-free live now, and it works very well: - DuckDuckGo as default search engine - Own domain for email, forwarded to Apple's mail - Apple map, Yandex map, Waze, Here WeGo for maps (depending on the country) - For videos, I search them in DDG with " !yt", then copy the links I want and download them with `youtube-dl` - Firefox and Safari - Zoho as a replacement for online docs and spreadsheets e…

Just a heads-up: Waze is owned by Google [1] now. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waze#Google_subsidiary

Waze was recommended by family for a trip to Israel.

The good news: Available for Windows Phone (which I had at that time)

The bad news: In order to use it access to my address book.

For a navigation app?

WHAT THE FUCK!

Re: Google chief: I'd disclose smart speakers before guests enter my home

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post #100

FWIW, I'm living a Google-free live now, and it works very well: - DuckDuckGo as default search engine - Own domain for email, forwarded to Apple's mail - Apple map, Yandex map, Waze, Here WeGo for maps (depending on the country) - For videos, I search them in DDG with " !yt", then copy the links I want and download them with `youtube-dl` - Firefox and Safari - Zoho as a replacement for online docs and spreadsheets e…

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