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Re: Google Announces Nest WiFi

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https://www.netgear.co.uk/home/products/networking/wifi-rout... works like a charm

What is with router designs? Can we just get a clean box with as simple of antenna as possible?

It's not the only reason I went with Ubiquiti at my place, but it was definitely a selling point that my access points all look like this now:

https://imgur.com/a/gTjUufY

No blinking lights, no fighter-jet aesthetic, just fast reliable boring looking panels.

Re: Google Announces Nest WiFi

#102
post #7

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I thought it was funny they said "has a speaker with the Google Assistant" rather than "has a microphone listening to you for Google Assistant"

One presumably pays money for a device with Google's name on it through which all of your network traffic flows, and you're worried about a microphone? (I well and fully get your point, I'm just amused that, in the bigger scheme of things, a microphone is the problem here.)

People care more about their physical privacy than digital, as they should be. Google snooping on my packets is less intrusive than a camera or microphone in your home, looking/listening at you.

Re: Google Announces Nest WiFi

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post #16

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Isn't it getting incredibly slow updates anyway? I mean, examining the release notes[1] suggests that there's not been an update since June, and there was a 1 year gap between the last two updates. So: Google behaving according to form, really. [1]: https://support.google.com/wifi/answer/9378012?hl=en&ref_top...

I'm not seeing the 1-year gap? I'm pretty sure where it says "January 2018" is a typo, was actually 2019.

Hm, you're right, that does seem to be a typo. I'll downgrade to "six month gap".

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I don't really have a lot of trust with Google to deliver a great consumer product in this area. I switched from Alexa to Google Home and just because I'm a GSuite customer, I have lost the ability to access my calendar or set reminders. It's like they just wanted to tick a few boxes to show a cool concept, then forgot to make a well rounded product out of it.

Honestly, I often get the impression that no Google PM's actually use their products. They look nice, but never work effectively.

Even on the development side, I got that impression with the first version of Angular, they created the framework but rarely used it on their development.

Re: Google Announces Nest WiFi

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What is with router designs? Can we just get a clean box with as simple of antenna as possible?

It's not the only reason I went with Ubiquiti at my place, but it was definitely a selling point that my access points all look like this now: https://imgur.com/a/gTjUufY No blinking lights, no fighter-jet aesthetic, just fast reliable boring looking panels.

way too slow for my connection.

Re: Google Announces Nest WiFi

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post #2

> You can get a two pack with one router and one point for $269 No mention of whether it supports 802.11ax. Why are WiFi devices lagging in speed advancements so much? I ended up purchasing a second hand AirPort Extreme because it’s still one of the best performing 802.11ac devices (in my anecdotal experiences of running a lot of clients)... and it’s OLD!

What’s the maximum speed people are getting in the real world with 802.11ax? I have gigabit internet up/down with an 802.11ac router and I’m getting 420-440 u/d right under the router from both my iPhone and my laptops with 802.11ac. I get 930 u/d wired.

Same exact as your metrics.

Re: Google Announces Nest WiFi

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post #2

> You can get a two pack with one router and one point for $269 No mention of whether it supports 802.11ax. Why are WiFi devices lagging in speed advancements so much? I ended up purchasing a second hand AirPort Extreme because it’s still one of the best performing 802.11ac devices (in my anecdotal experiences of running a lot of clients)... and it’s OLD!

ax is mostly about efficiency, not speed. While it has a much higher peak data throughput that’s often not realized anyway, so somewhat irrelevant. ax really doesn’t do much for most home networks. In a small network, 802.11n will provide all the throughput necessary to stream most things at 4K. And few people even have a connection faster than ac allows. ax provides faster speeds for highly congested networks, as we…

I think it’s safe to say the HN crowd is a little different than most. For me personally I have gigabit and work from home periodically. I’ll regularly saturate my wireless.

Re: Google Announces Nest WiFi

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post #2

> You can get a two pack with one router and one point for $269 No mention of whether it supports 802.11ax. Why are WiFi devices lagging in speed advancements so much? I ended up purchasing a second hand AirPort Extreme because it’s still one of the best performing 802.11ac devices (in my anecdotal experiences of running a lot of clients)... and it’s OLD!

My experience with the AirPort Extreme has been terrible to say the least. Over the years I have gone through 4 of them due to some poor design with the hardware. Usually is was the fan failing which caused a massive slowdown to the point where it's not usable. I took it into the Apple Store, they couldn't find the problem, I made a big stink and they gave me a new one. That one survived for another 6 months and fail…

Ubiquiti is not enterprise grade anything.

Especially not the last 3 years or so when it’s been a buggy software mess of outdated dependencies.

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