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Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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Not surprised, but a bit baffled why they allowed for uBO for such a long time in the first place? It looks as if they misused the community's products and trust to build their monopoly and then kick us out once it's gotten hard enough to compete. Perhaps this is a good thing in the long run, because now people will finally have to switch and maybe contribute to improving Firefox. I am hopeful, but also I must say in…

> I am hopeful, but also I must say in my opinion Firefox is nowhere near Chrome when comparing performance, developer tooling and quality. I have the opposite experience. I use FF on all my computers and mobile, and when I sit behind some other dev's Chrome the tools are simply atrocious. Maybe it's not the quality that is different, but the way we use the tools? I might have "aligned" myself with FF, as you (and ma…

Maybe that's part of it, yes.

I mean if I press Cmd+P to look up a source file and Firefox doesn't suggest the source mapped one before the ES5 compiled one, it's already beyond me how I should ever seriously work with that tooling. It's just a matter of speed and convenience. But my workflows of course might differ from what others do.

With quality I was referring to the actual code quality of Firefox, not so much the interface. See my post below about DOM events changing order when debugging. My instinct just tells me that something is deeply wrong under the hood if something like this can even happen.

Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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post #87

If you have to use Chromium, at this point it is clear that Brave is a better Chromium than Chrome [0][1] despite its BAT shenanigans. The UX is super nice, and adblocking just works without having to install any extensions. Hopefully Brave doesn't buy into the whole PrivacySandbox thing Google proposed [2]. For everything else, Firefox should be the default [3][4]. It'd be great if Firefox bundles a content blocker…

Why would Firefox block Google ads or Google trackers by default ? It doesn't make sense, it's their almost only source of revenue (>500 million of USD).

Firefox has recently started blocking Google’s third-party cookies by default.

Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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Odd - my experience is the opposite. FF is noticeably slower than Chrome, and my Chrome installation is loaded with extensions, unlike Firefox. Phoronix's tests seem to back my experience as well. From 4 days ago: "As for the Firefox vs. Chrome performance, Google's web browser continues generally delivering better performance." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=firefox6...

Firefox scroll lags like 500ms behind my input, on my mbp. How does anyone live like that?

Not sure if its representative, but I am extremely picky about framerates and jitter. On Ubuntu 19.10 Beta with Firefox 69.0.3 it feels noticeably faster than my Macbook.

Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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Google must be forced to open up Chrome to third-party extension stores.

A monopoly deciding on the kind of browser extensions we get to distribute and use is sickening. As Chrome is a dominant platform, our work is prevented from reaching users if it does not align with the bussiness goals of Google, and extensions that users want on their devices are effectively censored out of existence.

Again, the solution in the face of this company is not to ask them to behave nicely, but to force them to open up their platforms, so that the future of software we enjoy today does not depend on the whims of Google.

As an example of their behavior, I've shared my discussion [1] with Chrome Web Store reviewers when the time came for one of my projects to be taken down. You cannot expect them to respond properly and apply critical thinking, and showing even slight resistance may lead to further retaliation from their part.

The extension review process at Firefox is not flawless either, but you get to talk to human beings who respond appropiately, offer sensible viewpoints, listen to your feedback, and adjust their position during reviews.

[1] https://github.com/dessant/search-by-image/issues/57

Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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I hope, that Google will not put pressure on Mozilla to do same thing - remove uBlock Origin from Firefox extensions, since they still have leverage on Mozilla - hefty amounts for being first in their search list. Not sure if Mozilla is able to survive without Google (but hope they can).

Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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post #93

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Right, because Apple is going to change how Safari works on iOS because of a change that Google makes.... And “monopoly” has a legal definition it isn’t defined by random HN posters every week.

In the EU having a monopoly doesn't require you to be the only vendor in the market, it's sufficient to be large enough to exert abusive market forces on competitors. Google Chrome definitely fits that definition, so no it's not redefined by random HN posters this week.

And having a monopoly isn’t illegal. Again, despite what all of the wannabe lawyers who post to HN think.

How many times have HN users posted that Apple is a “monopoly”?

Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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It's time to switch to Firefox as my main web browser. It's faster and generally more efficient than Chrome plus it has the most important extensions. The most surprising thing is that the Android version of Firefox is excellent. So good that I switched from Chrome a few months ago when this expected news first dropped. No ads on mobile is awesome.

Odd - my experience is the opposite. FF is noticeably slower than Chrome, and my Chrome installation is loaded with extensions, unlike Firefox. Phoronix's tests seem to back my experience as well. From 4 days ago: "As for the Firefox vs. Chrome performance, Google's web browser continues generally delivering better performance." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=firefox6...

Is your firefox using Webrender?

Vanilla firefox is slower than chrome but WebRender is noticeably faster than chrome. Chrome on a 4K monitor slows down to a crawl, but WebRender handles it like a champ. It can be easily enabled with a flag.

Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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Edge on Chromium is a great browser! Been using it for three months now and am never going back. Also, while I am here, you should all be using a Pi Hole instead of uBlock Origin anyway. Much less detectable by sites, covers all of your devices... Seriously, spend the 1 hour it takes to set up the Pi Hole - you won’t regret it.

Pi Hole is a very poor substitute for uBlock origin, it doesn't block Youtube or Twitch ads for example or do anything dynamic. Plus it's full of false positives since DNS rules can be very coarse or change continuously. Not to mention the trouble you have to go to when sites break due to that coarseness or that in many cases it degrades functionality that's not immediately obvious. uBlock origin is the king of adblo…

Yes, but ublock doesn't write software that can be deployed to every device on your home network

Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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Firefox scroll lags like 500ms behind my input, on my mbp. How does anyone live like that?

"I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve heard statements like the following. Firefox crashes ten times a day for me. I don’t understand how anyone can use it. There’s a simple answer: for most people it doesn’t crash ten times a day. But the person making the statement hasn’t realized that what links the first sentence to the second is an assumption — that other people’s experiences are the same.", quoted from h…

I feel exactly the same when I read people saying that Firefox is faster than Chrome. It's been exactly the opposite for me and for everybody else I know on all kinds of computers and mobile phones.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=firefox6...

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=firefox6...

Personally, I'm working towards moving to Vivaldi...

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