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Backblaze 7.0 – Version History and Beyond

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Re: Backblaze 7.0 – Version History and Beyond

#101

I really miss Backblaze. I was a customer for years and years and actually was fortunate (I guess?) enough to have to use them to recover around a terabyte once but when I switched to using a Chromebox as my daily driver (then a Chromebox 2) I found I was turning my Windows machine on once a month just to keep kosher with the Backblaze servers. Such a great service and I still always look forward to the emails, stuff…

> I found I was turning my Windows machine on once a month just to keep kosher with the Backblaze servers I’ve been burnt badly by this, I wish there was a better way. I was in the habit of doing this and when I fired the drive up for some reason it failed to be backed up and the backup was deleted at their end. 1TB had to be re-uploaded on a 4Mbps connection. I know I shouldn’t have done the backup on the last day (…

Fortunately for me I realized none of the 5~ terabytes on that machine mattered whatsoever as I never actually used any of it.

I would archive podcasts I liked, download YT videos I found worthy of it, I had 100gb or so of 9/11 news coverage from the day of the attacks and the next few days, insane amounts of exes for pretty much every revision of every scrap of software I used in case I ever wanted to go back to an old version, insane amounts of images from where I'd rip entire tumblr accounts based around different fandoms/topics, I had half a century of Lodge meeting minutes for one of my Lodges scanned as high-resolution OCRd pdfs, entire websites I'd wget for offline (why?!) viewing etc. It's all presumably still there but I haven't turned that box on in about a year now.

Man, switching to a Chromebox was so freeing.

Re: Backblaze 7.0 – Version History and Beyond

#102
post #21

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Crashplan is more than twice the price, so you'd even have the budget for an extra device. Did you ever have to restore a significant amount of data with CrashPlan? Its been more than a month since a 3tb drive died on me and I'v only got 1/3 of it restored so far. I don't see any local bottlenecks. Its restore-or-upload, so recent data in unsecured as well. :( CrashPlan does supports client side encryption, making Bl…

Disclaimer: I work at Backblaze so I'm biased. > supports client side encryption, making Blackblaze not really an option for me Just to be clear, Backblaze Personal Backup encrypts all files on the client side, period. Now by default, Backblaze has the ability to decrypt those files, but you can set a "Private Encryption Key" and then if you forget that private encryption key nobody (including you, any Backblaze empl…

I really appreciate you taking the time to respond. Thank you.

Seems like my memory was reduced to "have to give you the key". I'll be more precise in the future.

I used to have my drives encrypted back when TrueCrypt was still a thing. From what I understand I'd lose a bunch of features, like de-duplication or the ability to restore individual files without having to download the entire state of the encrypted container. But maybe my knowledge is outdated... I'd love to read how to set up good local encryption that doesn't conflict with the backup.

Only having to trust Backblaze in the moment of restore is better than no encryption. But when that drive died a month ago I certainly wasn't in the state of mind to make optimal decisions. Setting myself up for such a situation doesn't seem that great, though more routine might have helped. Actually, routine would mean sending my key to Backblaze more often as well.

I'd entrust you to pretty much "archive" my entire digital live. Getting jailed now is less of an issue, but I do worry about two or three regime changes down the line. Especially with demagogues and dictators on the rise seemingly everywhere. People with other backgrounds likely worry less about something like that. But here in germany, especially east germany, we kind of have a messy past in that regard. Right now I do not trust US intelligence to ignore an as awesome treasure trove as countless personal backups. I also do not expect individuals at Backblaze to risk their freedom/livelihood by violating NSL's, if received. I certainly would not.

But yes, at the same time I'd highly value a company taking the extra effort to require me to only trust in what is running on my hardware. And thus I could theoretically audit. Bonus points for making an audit as easy as possible, by e.g. choosing open source or an easy to reverse engineer tech without relying on obfuscation. Though I'd understand this not fitting into / being part of Backblaze's businesses plan.

May I ask why Backblaze doesn't offer client-side decryption? Is it just the design you've chosen and a change not worth the effort? Maybe to somehow prevent abuse? Or it saves a bit of traffic, like in case the encrypted blocks contain additional data that don't need to be restored?

Re: Backblaze 7.0 – Version History and Beyond

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By the way, Comcast has announced that it literally intends to offer full 1 Gbit/sec service to every last customer in the United States, so another way to go is upgrade your internet for 1 month, then downgrade it later. Comcast is promising 1GB download speeds. Their maximum upload speed is still an abysmal 35Mbps.

> Comcast is promising 1GB download speeds. Their maximum upload speed is still an abysmal 35Mbps. Well, I have Comcast and my upload speed is 100 Mbits/sec. But even at 35 Mbits/sec you can upload 378 GBytes PER DAY. That means that within the Backblaze free trial of 14 days you can upload 5.2 Terabytes. Within Backblaze's recommended "fully backed up" period of 30 days you can upload 11.3 TBytes!! And we'll look th…

And if you fully max out the 35 mbps upload, your connection will be useless for a month - even for downloads. Learned that from when I did have Comcast and I was uhh “downloading Linux distros with bit torrent”.

Re: Backblaze 7.0 – Version History and Beyond

#104
post #61

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Yev, thanks for intervening but I’ve just received an update so incredible and unapologetic that I’m tempted to share verbatim excerpts here, and I think you should take a look. Support is basically telling me that the inherit process on the server can’t handle my "too large backup state’s indexes", and that I’m gonna have to start afresh and reupload 2TB or so from scratch. Not only that, but in order to even be all…

Disclaimer: I work at Backblaze and I wrote the Inherit Backup State functionality. > inherit process on the server can’t handle my "too large backup state’s indexes" Yeah, I'm sorry about that and it is on my plate to fix it. The issue is that Backblaze uses a ZIP library that only handles up to 4 GByte zip files. We zip up your "backup state" (the list of files that were backed up) and download it to the client tha…

Hi Brian,

Thanks for your reply, this is what makes HN awesome !

> Your "backup state" has exceeded 4 GBytes, which is unusual, but not unheard of (maybe 2% of our customers right now)

Not to put any extra pressure on you, but given the raw numbers, 2% of your user base affected by this issue sounds like a pretty big deal to me !

> And it is "on the rise" as more and more customers have more data, plus backup for longer and longer with Backblaze.

That's interesting : given that up until now there was no revision history or deleted files retention beyond 30 days, why would my backup state be larger as a customer of many years than if I signed up now, given the same set of files ? Do you keep metadata for all historical file activity even after the files themselves are gone ? Sounds to me more like a backup log than "state" then !

> By the way, Comcast has announced that it literally intends to offer full 1 Gbit/sec service to every last customer in the United States, so another way to go is upgrade your internet for 1 month, then downgrade it later.

I'm not in the US, but I do have pretty good symmetric 5G. Thanks for the advice, 2 weeks might be enough after all (I'll reinstall to reset the clock, for one thing). It's still a significant nuisance in terms of hogging bandwidth and leaving my laptop running 24/7 for days with fans probably going full speed. I just wonder what Backblaze would say to a customer on metered Internet (still common in many places) or simply with a slower uplink (a large part of Europe is still on ADSL/ADSL2 with 25M down / 1M up)

> And it's a fairly straight-forward fix for me to fix that, I just need to get to it. I'm sorry you got bitten by this short-coming, I will get it fixed.

Again, thanks for responding in person, I couldn't have hoped for much better in terms of a technical explanation.

I think I have 21 days left in the backup I want to inherit before the first external disks in it get deleted. I'm actually tempted now to wait a few more days, in case you manage to get this released quickly (especially if it's a server-side fix) :)

Something that could really be improved in situations like these, is that support should have discretion to help out the customer to make up for an issue that's on your side.

For example, putting backup expiration on hold until the bug is fixed (should be really easy actually now that your new offering is implemented : why did they not offer to move me to 1 year retention temporarily ?), issue an additional license so I didn't have to rely on the trial... anything that helps mitigate a problem that's not my fault. Not to mention, throwing in some free months of service for the inconvenience :)

Re: Backblaze 7.0 – Version History and Beyond

#105
post #82

Are you (BackBlaze) still happily deleting user's backup files if user's computer does not contact BackBlaze servers within some arbitrary time? Yes/No? Source: https://help.backblaze.com/hc/en-us/articles/217664898-What-... This is malice. If you are still doing this to your users - your service is a non-starter. Backup service that deletes user's valuable files under some TOS excuse should not exist.

Yev here -> yes, under our ToS you need to be a customer in good standing in order for us to provide service. We do want to see your computer ping home every now and again to make sure its running up-to-date and supported versions. The Computer Backup service is a backup, not an archive. If you need to put your data somewhere and have it be there forever until YOU remove it, we recommend our B2 Cloud Storage service which has a ton of integrations that make backing up easy -> https://www.backblaze.com/b2/integrations.html?use-case=back... (I filtered by "backup" to make it easier to see all of the integrators).

Re: Backblaze 7.0 – Version History and Beyond

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post #42

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Yev here -> I'll do support wherever I see my bat-signal :D Do you have an alternate method set? If you reach out to support -> https://help.backblaze.com/hc/en-us/requests/new (they have live chat right now) - they can try an alternate method if our primary provider isn't reaching your device!

It's completely broken here as well, which was really frustrating. I already wasted 117 days of a yearly subscription on one machine because it ran Catalina Beta (which was my fault, I needed a test machine, and I ate the time lost without complaint), but not being able to inherit that back up really sucked afterwards.

Yev here -> Have you reached out to support about the issue? They are working with our devs to track all of the issues and could use the additional data points -> https://help.backblaze.com/hc/en-us/requests/new. It's working for most users, so we're trying to whittle down the issue.

Re: Backblaze 7.0 – Version History and Beyond

#107
post #23

In case someone at Backblaze is reading this : I had a less than ideal experience in the past couple of days, trying to report through normal support channels a potentially critical bug breaking the "inherit backup" feature in the Mac client. Here goes : a few days ago the Backblaze Mac client started prompting me to upgrade urgently to the latest version (6.1.0.370). I went ahead and did that but got "Installation c…

Same here, it's happening on an older version of MacOS on my dad's Mac Mini if that's any help. Weirdest is that updates are normally automatic but now it told my dad to download the new DMG on your website, why?

Yev here -> it may be that something "ate" the auto-update process, could be A/V, a Firewall, or a break in the connection. He can grab the latest build from here -> files.backblaze.com and support can walk him through the process (live chat from 9am-12PM and 1PM-5PM Pacific). Edit -> support (https://help.backblaze.com/hc/en-us/requests/new)

Re: Backblaze 7.0 – Version History and Beyond

#108

I've only ever had one problem with Backblaze, in my ... 7 or 8? ... years as a customer. The problem: The UI for excluding directories is horrific . It uses the Windows "Browse for Folder" *SHBrowseForFolder) dialog, which requires you click down through each and every level of your directory structure to get to the directory you want to exclude. You can't cut and paste, it doesn't start from the directory you added…

Yev here -> if you don't want to use the UI (meant for non-tech savvy folks) we do have advanced exclusions via XML - take a look -> https://help.backblaze.com/hc/en-us/articles/220973007-Advan....

Re: Backblaze 7.0 – Version History and Beyond

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post #20

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Yev here -> No NAS support in this release. That part has not changed, however if you have external hard drives that you are backing up, this extended Version History does affect those! Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks for being here to answer this and other questions, Yev!

You bet! These days are fun for me because I get to hang out on the internet all day and answer questions :)
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