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‘Out here, it’s just me’: one doctor for 11,000 square miles

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I applied for a few jobs at places that did things like practice management software over the years, e.g. athenahealth but never worked in the industry, so I don't have any insight on what it's like on the inside. But I assume there are systemic reasons. It's easy to say concierge medicine, but I'm not clear on why that should work, if funneling the same amount of money every month through an insurance company doesn'…

Edited: Easy... They don't take insurance. They're typically cash only, which allows them freedom to do things like charge for house calls. Or they have contracts directly with employers to do checkups and on-demand visits onsite. Employers that are either big enough -or financially successful enough- to be self insured are essentially paying cash for office visits and most covered services anyway. (Many companies th…

I was only aware of them being a thing in the DC area, and not being mutually exclusive of insurance.

Anyway, if the loss ratio of an insurance company is more than 85% by law, it seems like you can gain only so much by bypassing them.

And why would you want to eliminate medical records?

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post #88

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We should go through the process of training more physicians, because every day in the USA many people are harmed, up to death, due to there not being enough physicians. We need more midlevels too, I agree, though midlevels are not allowed to do everything doctors can do and are required to have many things approved by a doctor as well. So to increase midlevels would naturally require an increase in physicians. I com…

I don’t mean to underestimate what you’re going through and those in similar situations, but consider the significant harm being done by unnecessary procedures and medications which add no value to a patient’s life. A lot of it is being done by a glut of avaricious physicians in metropolitan areas, particularly those with large elderly populations. Witness end-of-life care with its outrageous in-hospital costs, which…

That is an issue, but I don't think preventing the training of physicians will help. If anything it shows our training is inadequate.

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Very odd that this article never mentions that Texas has refused to expand Medicaid under the ACA.

Louisiana did, it’s hardly giving us a comparative advantage to Texas - see https://www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/news/business/article_a...

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post #59

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I believe the American Medical Association (AMA) lobbying congress to shut down medical schools and artificially limit residencies and thus the supply of doctors is a much bigger factor. A lot of people who are capable and motivated to be doctors for good reasons are shut out because doctors don't want there to be more doctors who will serve to limit their wage growth.

You need wage growth. It’s half million dollars in schooling and deferred wages.

Applications to medical schools suggest the contrary.

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#105

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I understand a lot of poor people in these regions lack the resources to move to more populated areas. Would you support a federal or state rehousing program to enable that? It's a genuine question; should the US taxpayer pony up so poor people trapped in rural areas can move to population centres and enjoy the benefits thereof?

In most cases, people live there because that is where their lives and family are, not because they are poor per se or "trapped". In fact, many of them are not poor by any constructive definition. These populations, while shrinking and aging, have productive lives often related to resource extraction industries such as farming and mining which are not going away. People are simply choosing to remain in the areas wher…

So what’s the problem then? If they have the money to pay the extra costs needed to attract labor to provide the services they want where they choose to live then the system is working perfectly fine, no?

If they don’t have the money they should move, possibly with assistance. I don’t see any case for subsidizing services in places where it really expensive to provide those services. Why that’d be like government grants to rebuild houses on a flood plain that got flooded out.

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It should be illegal for the government to detain people in areas with inadequate access to medical care. If they want to put immigration detention centers (or any prison) in the middle of nowhere, they should be required to pay for a doctor to be there too. And it isn't a case of 'well migrants cross the border in the middle of nowhere so it's their fault' - almost all immigrants held in this place are transferred f…

The cruelty isn't an unhappy, accidental by-product. It's the whole point of the policy. This is what ~half the country endorses, by virtue of how it votes.

Apparently, my earlier message did not resonate:

To be absolutely clear, this mess we are in is a function of money in politics, voters not seeing a choice they feel good about, and a general trend toward more authoritarian norms.

In any election, voters can and will do one of the following:

Vote Major Party Vote other No Vote

In the last election, a large number of Americans did not have a choice they felt worthy of a vote.

Blaming them does all of us ZERO good. Fear, blame and shame politics do not work to GOTV.

We can have a discussion about how we got here, and I think that makes sense to do.

It's too easy to just "blame the stupid people", as if that's all there is to any of this.

Re: ‘Out here, it’s just me’: one doctor for 11,000 square miles

#107
post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cruelty isn't an unhappy, accidental by-product. It's the whole point of the policy. This is what ~half the country endorses, by virtue of how it votes.

Apparently, my earlier message did not resonate: To be absolutely clear, this mess we are in is a function of money in politics, voters not seeing a choice they feel good about, and a general trend toward more authoritarian norms. In any election, voters can and will do one of the following: Vote Major Party Vote other No Vote In the last election, a large number of Americans did not have a choice they felt worthy of…

My guess is that 'half the country' in that comment was supposed to refer to Trump voters, not non-voters.

Re: ‘Out here, it’s just me’: one doctor for 11,000 square miles

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It should be illegal for the government to detain people in areas with inadequate access to medical care. If they want to put immigration detention centers (or any prison) in the middle of nowhere, they should be required to pay for a doctor to be there too. And it isn't a case of 'well migrants cross the border in the middle of nowhere so it's their fault' - almost all immigrants held in this place are transferred f…

It might not be their fault for breaking the law in the middle of nowhere , but they did still break the law. Not saying it justifies lack of medical care, I just think you're making an excuse for the wrong "element" of their behavior.

I have no idea what you think I am making an excuse for, but you're wrong.

Re: ‘Out here, it’s just me’: one doctor for 11,000 square miles

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post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We should go through the process of training more physicians, because every day in the USA many people are harmed, up to death, due to there not being enough physicians. We need more midlevels too, I agree, though midlevels are not allowed to do everything doctors can do and are required to have many things approved by a doctor as well. So to increase midlevels would naturally require an increase in physicians. I com…

I don’t mean to underestimate what you’re going through and those in similar situations, but consider the significant harm being done by unnecessary procedures and medications which add no value to a patient’s life. A lot of it is being done by a glut of avaricious physicians in metropolitan areas, particularly those with large elderly populations. Witness end-of-life care with its outrageous in-hospital costs, which…

> I don’t mean to underestimate what you’re going through and those in similar situations, but consider the significant harm being done by unnecessary procedures and medications which add no value to a patient’s life. A lot of it is being done by a glut of avaricious physicians in metropolitan areas, particularly those with large elderly populations. Witness end-of-life care with its outrageous in-hospital costs, which again adds little to the quality of someone’s life. This is one of the great scandals in U.S. healthcare.

I wasn't one of the downvoters (and in fact didn't read this comment until after your edit), but I think part of the issue people might have had with it is that it does across as a bit dismissive of GP's complaints. Yes, you've also correctly identified a problem that's tangentially related to the one under discussion, but you haven't given any insight to why that solving that problem will have any effect in what people were already discussing. It's sort of like jumping into a discussion about people starving due to inadequate food supplies and saying "Yeah, but what about people dying from eating food that should have been recalled due to contamination?" Both issues are about food, but there's no apparent context for the sudden shift in topic.

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#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently, my earlier message did not resonate: To be absolutely clear, this mess we are in is a function of money in politics, voters not seeing a choice they feel good about, and a general trend toward more authoritarian norms. In any election, voters can and will do one of the following: Vote Major Party Vote other No Vote In the last election, a large number of Americans did not have a choice they felt worthy of…

My guess is that 'half the country' in that comment was supposed to refer to Trump voters, not non-voters.

That's not half the country.
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