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The Church of Interruption

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Re: The Church of Interruption

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post #99

I'll be honest, I disengage from interrupters almost immediately. They consistently miss the point in their eager to hear their own shallow thoughts. Its boring.

But at least they show early that they missed the point and let you catch it early and explain better.

Instead of politely listening and after you finish ask what does the first thing (vital to understanding the whole speech) even mean.

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post #76
post #70

I've noticed a pretty heinous conversational pattern develop out of interruption sometimes. In theory, the best way to conduct a church-of-interruption exchange of ideas is big-endian: you begin by summarising your idea and only then flesh out the details. That way if your conclusion is understood you find out as quickly as possible. Unfortunately, if your conversational partner tends to interrupt incorrectly or in b…

So jokes are Little-endian I guess.

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Re: The Church of Interruption

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This falls apart when you have an interrupter who thinks they know everything, but really doesn't have a clue. They don't let you explain critical detail about something because 'they got it they got it' and when they inevitably screw up its your fault for not explaining it right.

I have a colleague who regularly interrupts me to say the complete opposite of what I want to say. I'm, of course, in the church of strong civility, so I always continue after the rude interruption. You'll often hear something like:

"We're struggling to meet our deadlines so I think we should---"

"Rewrite the project."

"---Avoid rewrites and do small reactors."

Re: The Church of Interruption

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post #93
post #70

I've noticed a pretty heinous conversational pattern develop out of interruption sometimes. In theory, the best way to conduct a church-of-interruption exchange of ideas is big-endian: you begin by summarising your idea and only then flesh out the details. That way if your conclusion is understood you find out as quickly as possible. Unfortunately, if your conversational partner tends to interrupt incorrectly or in b…

Of course, in real-world discourse delaying the high-order bits often just means they're never reached. > A: There's a thing I don't like. It's coarse, rough, and it gets... > B: Many coarse and rough things are vitally important though, why for example there's...

My story telling preference is little-endian and the type of exchange you’ve just described drives me bonkers

Re: The Church of Interruption

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post #70

I've noticed a pretty heinous conversational pattern develop out of interruption sometimes. In theory, the best way to conduct a church-of-interruption exchange of ideas is big-endian: you begin by summarising your idea and only then flesh out the details. That way if your conclusion is understood you find out as quickly as possible. Unfortunately, if your conversational partner tends to interrupt incorrectly or in b…

> In theory, the best way to conduct a church-of-interruption exchange of ideas is big-endian: you begin by summarising your idea and only then flesh out the details. That way if your conclusion is understood you find out as quickly as possible.

There are probably some linguistic phenomena at work here: subordinate clauses in German, for example, have trailing verbs (present perfect/pluperfect conjugations also have a final verb).

Re: The Church of Interruption

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Most annoying to me, from the top of my head, is when you are trying to find a word to say, and your interlocutor finishes your sentence with a word which is sort of fits in, but not the one you had in mind.

I'm not sure I'm all that against interrupters, and I think I can handle them and can sort of be one myself, but it is surely exhausting.

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post #80

I'm a Meek and one of the strategies I have developed for dealing with more interrupt-based communicators is to rely on an asynchronous, written medium. Be it slack, a shared google drive doc, whatever. "Hey, can we have a meeting to discuss X" will often be answered by "here's my written opinion on X and the different options I see. If you still think we need to meet, here's my availability". If this doesn't remove…

This is a valid approach, but it does have a problem: it can lead to long back and forth messaging/email exchanges, including lengthy messages. I don't, generally, have time to write long messages, nor (often) to read them, so as soon as I see this happening I've started to point out the behaviour and set up a short meeting to resolve whatever the issues are.

Maybe those short meetings loose some of the nuance of the longer written discussion and lead to worse decisions.

I'm reminded of Amazon's supposed culture of well-written memos ahead of meetings.

Re: The Church of Interruption

#108

Some people keep talking for a long time unless interrupted. They might even go in an infinite loop, reconfirming what they already said! For such people, while normally meek I force myself to interrupt!

That's good because the cultural norm of automatically repeating comes from the expectation that the other person will interrupt once they have something to say.

Actually, repeaters might have it right - not even once in memory has someone who failed to understand me said "I don't get it," after I finished talking, everyone just nods and says "mm-hmm." It would not be irrational to assume the listener didn't get it until being presented with evidence otherwise.

Re: The Church of Interruption

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post #45

I'm an interrupter, by nature. And I also have a tendency to talk when I'm nervous. As TFA says, I'm fine with other interrupters. We have great conversations. We start finishing each others thoughts. But otherwise, not so great. Probably the best insight that I got from group therapy was being told that I needed to learn when to shut up. So I've learned to be adaptive. And when I'm nervous, I've learned to draw peop…

Do you ever stop thinking about what you're about to say and instead focus on how your audience is reacting to what you just said? I find watching peoples' faces and any cues that reveal their emotion helps me gauge whether or not I'm having a "not so great" conversation, which allows me to be less interrupt-y and more of a listener.

Re: The Church of Interruption

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post #76
post #70

I've noticed a pretty heinous conversational pattern develop out of interruption sometimes. In theory, the best way to conduct a church-of-interruption exchange of ideas is big-endian: you begin by summarising your idea and only then flesh out the details. That way if your conclusion is understood you find out as quickly as possible. Unfortunately, if your conversational partner tends to interrupt incorrectly or in b…

So jokes are Little-endian I guess.

It makes sense. They say humour is based on creating expectations and solving them suddenly.
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