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Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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Seth, as a person that has learned a lot from you over the years and benefited from your work while at Chef, Hashicorp, and Google Cloud, this act has only increased my respect for you. Thank you for taking a stand against oppression and injustice.

Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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post #55

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Do you think that there is a point in having boarders between countries? If so how should they be enforced? If a 17 year "child" crosses the boarder should they be detained (ie. kept in prison until deportation) or should they be allowed to walk free in the US. If a child and parent both crossed the border should only the parents be detained leaving the child to fend for itself in America? Should they be detained in…

> I agree that keeping children in cages is not good, but Come on, man.

I'm waiting for you to write what the alternative is? Make a law stating that if you cross the boarder illegally, or for that matter, commit any crime, but are a child, then you do not get detained?

Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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It wasn’t a political statement. I have a few thoughts in general. These aren’t specific to this situation. First, always minimize runtime dependencies. I personally prefer compiled things for this very reason. Second, if you’re going to include a third party dependency, how are you auditing it? There’s an unexplored area around security here too. The Node.js ecosystem has had a series of incidents where popular pack…

Compromised third party libs are absolutely not “an unexplored area around security”. It’s a super well-known threat.

Sorry - by “unexplored” I meant “not a topic I’ve seen discussed at length with regard to this particular issue”

Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think that there is a point in having boarders between countries? If so how should they be enforced? If a 17 year "child" crosses the boarder should they be detained (ie. kept in prison until deportation) or should they be allowed to walk free in the US. If a child and parent both crossed the border should only the parents be detained leaving the child to fend for itself in America? Should they be detained in…

> I agree that keeping children in cages is not good, but Come on, man.

Would you be much happier if it was a normal room, but locked from the outside?

I never saw anyone talking about "cages" until about a year or so ago. It seems the alternative of better accommodation isn't what people are demanding here, but rather, giving children a waiver to break any and all laws. If you want to see children being forced or recruited into cartels in record numbers, making them immune from any kind of border enforcement is a surefire way to do it!

Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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Not completely related, but the tone of the two tweets linked in the article doesn’t make sense to me. The first is a reasonable request for a comment about an issue that Shanley cares about, but it’s immediately followed by a comment a minute later screaming at Chef to take a certain action while hurling epithets at them in all-caps. How can you possibly assume good faith from the first comment after reading the sec…

She has a book to sell :)

Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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Someone (Chef) has already unethically forked it.

Is it unethical, though? The entire point of OSS is that you cannot revoke the license once granted. A hostile fork is the expected result of Chef's actions. The zeroth freedom is the freedom to use the software for any purpose whatsoever. That inherently must include purposes which the author finds unethical, even abhorrent.

It’s legal, no doubt about it.

But forking with the intention of helping people run concentration camps and changing the authorship of the commits? Doesn’t fit into my model of ethics.

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