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Re: Reasons to Open a Chinese Bank Account

#101

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Just look at the top stocks 30 years ago and see which ones are still in business today, and of those which have beaten the market average. No stock will outperform the market over the long term. Nor will any mutual fund! For medium time horizons it's not impossible but exceedingly unlikely. For short time horizons it's still not remotely easy for firms to accomplish, and many do not.

> No stock will outperform the market over the long term. So all stocks are below average...Sort of a reverse Lake Wobegon effect?

> I suppose it's possible for a company to exist indefinitely, but how many companies that existed 1000 years ago exist today?

How many markets that existed 1000 years ago exist today? The point I'm making is that markets are composed of individual stocks, they can't be inherently superior in terms of ROE to the stocks that the indices track.

Re: Reasons to Open a Chinese Bank Account

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In a rather-unrelated matter, does anyone have a Swiss bank account? I'm looking for a bank to open one in but apparently most have a 500k minimum, I just want a personal account...

What'd be the point? The days when the Swiss wouldn't rat you out to your own government are long gone.

Re: Reasons to Open a Chinese Bank Account

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In a rather-unrelated matter, does anyone have a Swiss bank account? I'm looking for a bank to open one in but apparently most have a 500k minimum, I just want a personal account...

What'd be the point? The days when the Swiss wouldn't rat you out to your own government are long gone.

Greek banks are less than reliable at the moment...

Re: Reasons to Open a Chinese Bank Account

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Why would you need to visit China to have an opinion that could be arrived at by looking at financials - a common practice in measuring success. Just look at a portfolio of large Chinese companies - they are doing well, thus I would also hypothesize that they are well-run companies.

The numerical data to which you have access is not necessarily accurate. Corruption, bribery, fabricated numerical data are par for the course here. He was talking about China as a country and as an economy. If you come and visit, it is immediately obvious that there are problems.

Just because there are problems does not necessarily mean that (as a whole) it is being run poorly.

Re: Reasons to Open a Chinese Bank Account

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Is there much inflation in the US right now? It's really high in the mainland at the moment, particularly with relation to food. My business partner just sold an apartment in Beijing. I tried to convince her to buy up some land back in the US, but she chose to buy another apartment here instead. Part of her concern was that the US housing market was going to be relatively flat for the next couple of years, which is h…

US Rent prices rose 12% last year http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rent-prices-rose-12-last-ye... Sugar Prices Hit 30-Year Highs http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870350690457559... Gasoline Tops $3 a Gallon for First Time at Christmas http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/3-dollar-gas/19775116/ Unless you believe the official US CPI, which excludes food/oil

Official inflation rates often aren't a very relevant measure anyway. Better to think about personal inflation rates, depending on one's future expenses and living locations. An unhealthy 50-year-old with high upcoming medical costs has a high "personal" inflation rate, whereas someone surfing every day on a Mexican beach a low one.

Re: Reasons to Open a Chinese Bank Account

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Yeah, and given the results of the past decade I'm inclined to trust the Communists... Not that they're actually communists; they're just a really big national corporation, imho.

Indeed, more like a well-runned corporation with 1.3 billion workers.

*trillion

Re: Reasons to Open a Chinese Bank Account

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The problem with that sort of thinking is that it relies on you being able to time when when market will go from being irrational in one direction to being irrational in another. Lets take the dot-com boom as an example. There were people saying that dot-com companies were overvalued in 1997, when the Asian currency crisis hit. Those people were, in retrospect, probably right. However, the next two years made them lo…

Your argument is a non-sequitur. The original argument was that there was no point in investing, because if you'd invested 10-15 years ago, you'd have made a lot of money. That argument is wrong for obvious reasons, which I will spell out anyway; just because something did well in the past is no reason to think you'll lose money on it in the future. Your argument is that if you invest in something and it goes down in…

I think that the point is that after the explosive growth stage, if something is a bubble you end up in a (possibly) short period before the bust. While you can make money investing during the period, the risk is that much greater that you will miscalculate when the bust will happen and take heavy losses. So:

  1. Explosive growth is over, you can't make money anymore.
  2. That's not true, you *can* still make money.
  3. But attempting to make money at this stage is riskier.

Re: Reasons to Open a Chinese Bank Account

#110

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What'd be the point? The days when the Swiss wouldn't rat you out to your own government are long gone.

Greek banks are less than reliable at the moment...

German. Probably as stable as they get on the continent these days. I've no idea if there are any residency requirements though.
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