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Automattic raises $300M at $3B valuation from Salesforce Ventures

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Re: Automattic raises $300M at $3B valuation from Salesforce Ventures

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Post by nathan-io »

The article didn't mention the lack of version control, which AFAIK is impractical due to the sheer amount of HTML and layout-defining configuration WP stores in the db.

In spite of WP's revision history feature on Posts and other models, I've always found this to be a major issue on WP sites.

Obviously there are numerous other problems with WP, that's just one I didn't see the author touch on.

I try to talk clients out of WP whenever possible, and most let me build using a proper MVC framework.

I like to think I'm making the Internet a little better, one not-another-WordPress-site at a time.

Re: Automattic raises $300M at $3B valuation from Salesforce Ventures

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Post by davidivadavid »

k__ wrote: post #73
rblion wrote: post #24

DHH isn't too thrilled about this. > “We want every website, whether it’s e-commerce or anything to be powered by WordPress” is a nasty, monopolistic goal. Listening to Matt muse about 85% marketshare dreams is a real downer. But $300m is a down payment on monopoly dreams. full thread: https://twitter.com/dhh/status/1174695189090308096

As far as I know, DHH isn't a big fan of investments in general.

He still took money from Jeff Bezos.

Re: Automattic raises $300M at $3B valuation from Salesforce Ventures

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Post by ceejayoz »

notzuck wrote: post #98
human20190310 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I googled the quote, and based on the context here [0], it seems like the demographic being referred to is non-male. What's wrong with reviewing hiring processes to determine if they're excluding a demographic that contains individuals who would have done well in the role? [0] https://cate.blog/2019/05/15/addressing-hiring-gaps-through-... EDIT: The tl;dr for the article is that they're doing research on "how the peo…

There's nothing wrong with reviewing your hiring processes to audit for equality. Outright saying that you attract a demographic that you DO NOT WANT TO HIRE FROM is a whole different level of problem. Might as well say no blacks and irish. That whole quote could be associated with various different ethnic groups over the years depending on the time it was written. in 2019, that type of quote should not exist.

> Outright saying that you attract a demographic that you DO NOT WANT TO HIRE FROM is a whole different level of problem.

That's not what was said. Nothing in that quote implies "we will hire zero men".

Re: Automattic raises $300M at $3B valuation from Salesforce Ventures

#105

Post by bigiain »

photomatt wrote: post #88
_the_inflator wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Competition in the enterprise market is also heating up. Adobe Experience Manager can be mentioned as an inferior product tech stack wise, but strong marketing including targeting the C level with PowerPoint presentations let’s it win customers. Feature wise Wordpress needs to do something at the analytics level. It does not make sense to host everything via Wordpress however everything data related is done via third…

Adobe must have the best salespeople ever, for what people pay for Experience Manager vs what it actually does.

Anecdata point: A while back I worked for an agency where the _client_ had signed a $600k/yr contract for Adobe CQ, which was completely unused for the ~2 years I knew about it... Expensive suits and haircuts, and "meetings" on golf courses and in expensive restaurants, and the client shows up with zero notice saying "here's our Adobe CQ license!" and then rejected all the estimates for migrating their site from Alfresco to CQ... (And I just looked, it's now 5 years later and the client is onto at least the third agency since the one I was at - and the site is on Sitecore... I wouldn't be _too_ surprised to find out they're still paying for that CQ license... Either because they got signed up for a 5 or 109 year "deal"m or because they get re-schmoozed by Adobe's sale team every year...)

Re: Automattic raises $300M at $3B valuation from Salesforce Ventures

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Post by tomnipotent »

puranjay wrote: post #81

Around three years back, if you were to ask me to build a website, I would straight up choose WordPress. Not because it was the best at it, but because it was the easiest and the cheapest way to do it. Now, I'm not so sure. Blogging itself is in decline and the kind of blogging experience WordPress offers is, frankly, too bloated for the average blogger

> Blogging

WP is a full-featured CMS and has been for over a decade.

Re: Automattic raises $300M at $3B valuation from Salesforce Ventures

#108

Post by notzuck »

ceejayoz wrote: post #104
notzuck wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's nothing wrong with reviewing your hiring processes to audit for equality. Outright saying that you attract a demographic that you DO NOT WANT TO HIRE FROM is a whole different level of problem. Might as well say no blacks and irish. That whole quote could be associated with various different ethnic groups over the years depending on the time it was written. in 2019, that type of quote should not exist.

> Outright saying that you attract a demographic that you DO NOT WANT TO HIRE FROM is a whole different level of problem. That's not what was said. Nothing in that quote implies "we will hire zero men".

She literally said she gets applications from a demographic that she doesn't want to hire from.... am I missing something here? You can't just say I have too many Asians and therefore would prefer to have my applicants not be Asian.

Re: Automattic raises $300M at $3B valuation from Salesforce Ventures

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Post by human20190310 »

kd3 wrote: post #92
human20190310 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I googled the quote, and based on the context here [0], it seems like the demographic being referred to is non-male. What's wrong with reviewing hiring processes to determine if they're excluding a demographic that contains individuals who would have done well in the role? [0] https://cate.blog/2019/05/15/addressing-hiring-gaps-through-... EDIT: The tl;dr for the article is that they're doing research on "how the peo…

Read all the way to the end.

I did. It's a call for women and non-binary people to participate in a survey, not get a job. They're trying to assess the people that are under-represented in their hiring, not hire them preferentially.

Re: Automattic raises $300M at $3B valuation from Salesforce Ventures

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Post by davidjnelson »

ksec wrote: post #89
gk1 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Translation: We're actually doing well, but you only hear about Wix and others because they spend more money on advertising than we do.

I wish I could stop having Wix ads on youtube, I have seen it like 500 times already. While Squarespace is on all the information channel as sponsors. I have yet to see a single ads on Wordpress. Not necessarily a bad thing, but now whenever I think of doing a simple website my brains clicks on Wix or SqaureSpace instead of thinking about Wordpress.com

Youtube premium removes video ads. Plus you can skip the product placement ads if you want.
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