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Re: Richard M. Stallman resigns

#102
i have had endless shit to shovel at stallman over the years but this is just the tits, taken down over nothing at all because cancel-crazy moral panickers have convinced milquetoast moron administrators that “psychological safety” is something that hinges on people only professing approved opinions

eat yourselves, you progressive turds. eat yourself for my entertainment

Re: Richard M. Stallman resigns

#103
post #14

I've seen some online cheering Stallman's resignation from MIT. I suspect they'll also be cheering about this resignation as well. But this is nothing to cheer about. Regardless of what low regard the man might be held as a person, he's being persecuted for having expressing ideas, demanding proof of claims, advocating for objective standards, and asking questions. These are all hallmarks of scientific inquiry. It se…

"Asking questions" that deny people's humanity over and over isn't exactly a positive intellectual exercise.

We pretty conclusively decided that race based chattel slavery was wrong a while ago. But why? Can we keep expressing ideas and demanding proof of these claims? Can we do it forever? Can we do it while holding positions of power at institutions that are attended by black students?

Re: Richard M. Stallman resigns

#104
post #77

RMS was defending Minsky, awkwardly. As someone who has a history of social awkwardness, he should be forgiven for this. He's been a good steward of the FSF, which has doing important work in the service of free (read: non-backdoored) hardware lately. I know there are good people still at the FSF, but I can only hope they are as incorruptible and dogged as RMS. The way this attack came suddenly out of the depths make…

Minsky was a child molester. There's no way to defend that.

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Re: Richard M. Stallman resigns

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The full thread is public, so folks can read it for themselves: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ne8b47/two-researchers-re... Scroll down to the inline doc reader widget. Background: https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-fec6ec21...

On the same tabloid that blatantly lies on the headline of another article about the same issue? https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9ke3ke/famed-computer-sci...

Luckily, GP told you how to get to the full, original document so you don't have to trust Vice's reporting.

Re: Richard M. Stallman resigns

#107
post #14

I've seen some online cheering Stallman's resignation from MIT. I suspect they'll also be cheering about this resignation as well. But this is nothing to cheer about. Regardless of what low regard the man might be held as a person, he's being persecuted for having expressing ideas, demanding proof of claims, advocating for objective standards, and asking questions. These are all hallmarks of scientific inquiry. It se…

He picked a stupid hill to die one. Everyone who picks that hill to die on just dies.

Re: Richard M. Stallman resigns

#108
Well, I'm now going to be following Stallman without the FSF around. His (admittedly) iconoclastic views are important, and I appreciate what he says about technology and privacy. His legal views are questionable, yes, but I don't accept the idea that he should be removed from the FSF.

Re: Richard M. Stallman resigns

#109
post #28

Knowing how stubborn and aloof Richard tends to be, it is a huge surprise that this has happened at all, let alone so quickly. I can only imagine there was an immense amount of pressure from the board, partner projects, and sponsors.

At his level, "fired" and "resigned" are often synonyms.

Re: Richard M. Stallman resigns

#110
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the counter argument for what Stallman wrote? I've seen that the "press is going too hard on him", but, honestly, I think they were justified. What is the "big difference" to you? If someone, personally, said to me that that someone be absolved of a crime, because the other, coerced, party was "willing" at that moment, I'd seriously question their morals.

Even if the person who commited the crime had no knowledge that the other party was coerced? Why are they at fault because they were lied to and tricked into commiting a crime?

Having sex with a minor is a crime, regardless of coercion, because a minor is not capable of giving consent to sex with an adult, because of both cognitive differences and power imbalances.

If someone Minsky's age went out and started dating and having sex with high schoolers, he would go to jail. Period. Regardless of the exact social dynamics.

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