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Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by tempsy » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 2:50 AM UTC

ssalazar wrote: post #91

tempsy wrote: post #84

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Are you really saying you don’t understand why Apple might not want to use a framework created by their frenemies in Facebook and Google, especially given Apple’s focus on privacy and willingness to make an example of FB and Google for their comparatively lax privacy standards?

Sure, but how does any of that resonate with the general public? "Apple is using Facebook's front-end code library" isnt exactly a gripping headline or tweet. You can read the source code to either; its not as if theyre secretly embedding tracking into every React/Angular app.

Ok. I mean you can ask that to Tim Cook :) If not optics it’s about ego. Again, if Apple hates FB/Goog then why use their frameworks when there’s dozens of other alternatives.

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by ihuman » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 2:52 AM UTC

ec109685 wrote: post #94

eddieh wrote: post #63

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Actually Apple Music in iTunes is just a web view that leaks like crazy, to the point of making iTunes slow to a crawl, if you're quickly navigating through artists and albums. Not much better than Electron IMO. Apple Music in the browser seems like there isn't much hope of a truly native experience now.

The iMessage app is also just a webview (at least up to 10.14).

Really? I thought it was based on old iChat application, since it used to support other IM providers.

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by saagarjha » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 2:59 AM UTC

ec109685 wrote: post #94

eddieh wrote: post #63

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Actually Apple Music in iTunes is just a web view that leaks like crazy, to the point of making iTunes slow to a crawl, if you're quickly navigating through artists and albums. Not much better than Electron IMO. Apple Music in the browser seems like there isn't much hope of a truly native experience now.

The iMessage app is also just a webview (at least up to 10.14).

It’s still a web view in Catalina as well.

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by saagarjha » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 2:59 AM UTC

ihuman wrote: post #102

ec109685 wrote: post #94

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The iMessage app is also just a webview (at least up to 10.14).

Really? I thought it was based on old iChat application, since it used to support other IM providers.

Support for that was ripped out years ago.

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by saagarjha » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 3:00 AM UTC

eddieh wrote: post #71

kevin2r wrote: post #65

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What about the new Music app coming in MacOS Catalina? Does it implements the views in html5?

I haven't tried Catalina yet. I really hope it isn't a web view. That would really defeat what I hoped they where doing by splitting iTunes up.

The Apple Music portion is a web view: wherever it crashes (which is quite often, sadly) it shows the JavaScript backtrace.

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by saagarjha » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 3:02 AM UTC

tempsy wrote: post #70

vonseel wrote: post #64

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I’m surprised. I haven’t heard anything about Ember in years. Not since 2013 or so.

Is it really that surprising given React is FB and Angular is Google?

FWIW, Apple uses both for other projects.

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by saagarjha » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 3:03 AM UTC

wyclif wrote: post #96

wyclif wrote: post #95

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Right, and that's one of the reasons why I use Spotify and won't use Apple Music.

Actually, this won't even let me sign in with my Apple ID. It accepts my username/password, and prompts me to "Try it now", but when I click that, I get a drop down telling me I need to open the Apple Music client. Bravo, Apple.

(It’s a beta.)

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by saagarjha » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 3:04 AM UTC

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #31

trillic wrote: post #4

Uses 50MB less memory as the sole tab in Firefox than iTunes does on my Mac. Easy decision to switch for normal playback purposes.

> Uses 50MB less memory as the sole tab in Firefox than iTunes does on my Mac. Well that's because iTunes also includes Calendar, and Mail, and Safari... ;) https://youtu.be/psL_5RIBqnY?t=6254

I wonder if it’s possible to trick iTunes into browsing the web. It is a web view, after all (or at least the store portion is).

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by saagarjha » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 3:05 AM UTC

flixic wrote: post #44

Very nice to see them provide a dark CSS theme via prefers-color-scheme, following system preference.

I would not be surprised if they have this because it’s used in the Music app.

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by saagarjha » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 3:06 AM UTC

erikig wrote: post #16

Finally. Live web clients are great - it makes it easier to reverse engineer, scrape data and build add-ons. Kudos!

I don’t know…personally, Apple’s native apps are easier for me to reverse engineer than most minified obfuscated JavaScript. Then again, I’m not a web developer.