I'll be getting one of these when hell freezes over. If that means starting my own Internet, then that's exactly what I'll do.
Obama administration moves forward with unique Internet ID for all Americans
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
The USA is in rapid decline? Let me guess, because teenagers use Facebook, spell "you" as "u" and house prices are not increasing as quickly as 5 years ago?
You're on the right track, actually. Academic motivation is virtually nonexistent in the States, whereas in China kids go to school on Saturdays and go to private cram schools until nighttime. A nation is made or broken by its education systems since after all, knowledge is power.
Well, the OP said "rapid decline". This is a gradual non-improvement, which is not the same thing.
Also, does going to school 7 days a week increase learning? I can sit in front of my computer and type stuff for 24 hours straight. Doesn't mean the result is any good.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Remind me again of why we 'need' a solution such as this?" There are lots of services that people want that are impossible to build without a way to prove that someone is who they say they are. E.g. better reputation systems. "we all KNOW it will be abused." Obviously. That doesn't mean there isn't a need though.
Last I checked there is an identity management authentication system you can use, for example Twitter has verified accounts (I don't know how they do it, perhaps by mail) or Bluehost asks for people to fax them a copy of an ID/Passport to get shell access (stupid, considering they have your VISA). So what you are saying is you are prepared to take the potential abuses because you want it to be more "seamless" than a…
It's not stupid. They have A VISA. They want to know that it's your VISA, because people can (and do) use fraudulent cards for hosting.
I'm surprised that they wait until you want shell access to do this. A number of hosting companies do this in different ways, usually before you're even given services. Rackspace Cloud, for example, calls you to verify your identity (last I heard, anyway).
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't have to get (one) Cool. They've got the OK from me. It could turn out to be neat, and so long as it's optional I'm not worried.
It'll be optional in the way driver's licenses are. If you want access to any internet service with value (e.g. google, etc.) you will need one. I can see it going that way.
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#105IANAL, but this is technically legal, so long as it's used ONLY for commerce, by means of the Interstate Commerce Clause of the US Constitution. After that, it becomes unconstitutional, far as I know. So, in other words, it's unconstitutional, because it won't be used only for commerce.
Constitution is meaningless these days. "Unconstitutional" is defined by the emotional whims and ideologies of judges.
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#106I can sympathize with discontent about this, but almost nobody has brought up the positive uses of unique Internet ID. Suppose you want a system where you want to signal to all internet companies that you don't want your browsing data to be harbored without your consent. The ID system would allow the creation and enforcement of such system. The support for this comes in part because of pressure from the groups who ar…
It's one thing to say the government will host the ID data for free, for every American. (Or at least every American they deem worthy of a proof-of-online-identity certificate.)
But possession is often viewed as 9/10ths of the law. Calling it "my" data is misleading if they really mean "data about me."
Would I like to have a permanent, personal and authenticated key value store to in conjunction in some interpersonal or person-machine transactions? Absolutely.
But I don't see how having a government issued identity solves the problem of how my browsing data might be misused elsewhere.
It would seem that it only adds more personally-identifiable metadata that could be intercepted, tracked, or stolen along the way.
How would such an ID system enable the creation and enforcement of a do-not-track list? That sounds appealing, but how does my identity being tracked stop me from being tracked?
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about because ppl prefer religion over science. And security over freedom. Federal government getting more corrupt and more powerful with each year.
> How about because ppl prefer religion over science. And security over freedom. Federal government getting more corrupt and more powerful with each year. When do you think that each of those became true? Or is it that they've finally crossed a tipping point? I agree that they're all true, but they've been true since before 1776. And, as bad as the US is on an absolute scale, I'm having trouble finding some place bet…
http://ngrams.googlelabs.com/graph?content=Freedom,+freedom,...
In the 50s, 60s, 70s children have dreamed of becoming astronauts, programmers, engineers, scientists. But nowadays the cool jobs are in sports, TV, finance.
I'd bet around 1776 the majority of ppl in the colonies were willing to take care of themselves. Today the power of federal government cannot be ignored by anyone, so it's part of every big problem/solution.
IMHO we'll see some global changes in the next years. The best place to live would be the one, where your chances of survival are the highest.
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#108We are going to end up with something sooner or later. The fact is that we want (and can) enter into contracts on the Internet. In order to enforce contracts we must have identities. Since the Government (specifically the judiciary) enforces contracts, this means that we must be entering into these contracts under Government-managed identities. Currently we acquire and prove this Government-managed identity using an…
This initiative is coming out of NIST inside the Commerce department, with smart folks there who know this 1) a tough problem, 2) needs to be an open standard and 3) that the feds role here is best as being the ones who convene the people in the room.
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/01/obama-strategy-for-on...
There's got to be a better way to prove you are real and legit, than giving some company the right to pull a sub-one dollar sum of money from your bank account and then confirming that to them online.
OpenID is fine, so far as it has gone, but right now it looks like Facebook is winning the war for identity and authentication. Having the feds behind an open standard hardly means you are getting the Real ID of the internet.
You've got a few choices of who's going to do this in the future. The feds, your bank, Facebook, PayPal or your mobile phone carrier. Personally, I'd prefer an open system where I have my choice of 10 providers all using open standards, than having to rely on multiple closed systems like giant bank or Facebook or Paypal.
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#109I shared my thoughts in detail about this more than a year ago, we should get out in front or as now coming true my prediction was, "As private industry and a world society I hope we can take care of this ourselves before it gets so out of control Congress tries to figure out how to do it and we end up with some horrible mess of a “National ID and Digital Identity Act” that looks at it only from the perspective of th…
Major internet properties are international - Facebook, Paypal, Skype, Google, Microsoft's, Groupon, etc. Most countries have the technical talent to create clones of successful US startups. The problem is local governments will be able to control those local forums and social networks. So killing online freedom in US will kill it worldwide.
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#110As all services become digital eventually, the guy controlling the central ID system will be able to literally let you starve to death.
The fight for internet freedom is really the most important one in human history. If we don't win, we'll end up with a government that can actually enforce ALL its laws ALL the time.