Jitsi Meet supports Firefox. https://jitsi.org/jitsi-meet/
Looks cool. How does jitsi make money?
Tell HN: Skype on web does not support Firefox
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Re: Tell HN: Skype on web does not support Firefox
#102Original Skype for Web developer here. I was part of the launch team who built the first version for this product in 2014[1]. Back then we supported Chrome, IE 9+, Safari and Firefox. Already we had internal debates to support Opera, but the decision was to focus on the largest browsers. For each browser, we had to add support in our standalone plugin, that was (and still is) required to install for audio/video calls…
>> For each browser, we had to add support in our standalone plugin, that was (and still is) required to install for audio/video calls Wait Chrome doesn't need it right? I think the issue here is a codec no? There's even people that have hangouts working in pidgin because it just uses webrtc. I was trying to debug potential webrtc issues with skype web for pidgin. It's one thing to say we wanted to do this and that b…
I enjoyed using Skype for a short period - when Microsoft integrated it with the SMS app on Windows Phone. Notifications delivered timely, chatting was a breeze - none of the processor, & ram heavy lag Skype's known for.
After they broke that, I went back to the normal skype.
I stopped using Skype because it framed me and my pals as assholes. I'd send messages and it wouldn't deliver but make me think it did. I'd then think the other person was ignoring me.
It'd say I'm online with both my PC and phone disconnected from the internet. So people would chat me up and I'd not reply for hours or days. And I'd have to start explaining and giving live demos to prove that Skype's playing tricks.
I'd send a message but the recipient will see "your client version cannot handle this message" or some other cryptic message.
I feel like Facebook paid Skype to intentionally frustrate from their service. They keep working hard to push users away.
Re: Tell HN: Skype on web does not support Firefox
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
It even has a built in 3 node "Tor" browsing for their private windows if you want.
Do you just mean standard Tor? I found an announcement saying it was a beta feature, if it's considered stable now that's great.
You are correct I shouldn't have put it in quotes.
They have a private window, or you can open up a tor private window by hitting shift+alt+N for a new tab with tor.
Info on what their Tor actually does.
https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018121491
Screenshot for posterity.
Re: Tell HN: Skype on web does not support Firefox
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Video calls do work. There is an extension, that will change the UA only for Skype: https://addons.mozilla.org/pl/firefox/addon/firefox-web-skyp...
There are plenty of extensions that will let you change the UA for any site; having yet another one with such a narrow function seems to me like those "we have a smartphone app too" whose only purpose is to open the browser to their site.
But if it's your only use of such a thing, as it is for me, it's just one click away. You can also feel reasonably safe as the extension works only on Skype's web sites per Web Extension manifest.
Re: Tell HN: Skype on web does not support Firefox
#105The worst is that just changing the user agent makes everything work.
I was going to say "Great, so Chrome/X.X is going to be the new Mozilla/4.0" but then looked it up and apparently Chrome already reports itself as "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/74.0.3729.169 Safari/537.36" so what even is a user agent string for?
Obligatory classic: https://webaim.org/blog/user-agent-string-history/
Re: Tell HN: Skype on web does not support Firefox
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
It even has a built in 3 node "Tor" browsing for their private windows if you want.
Do you just mean standard Tor? I found an announcement saying it was a beta feature, if it's considered stable now that's great.
Also they do clarify because they are somewhat misleading. On the Tor splash page it states that you can hide your IP from ISP/Employer, however when you read the details about what Tor does they are correct by stating:
>If your employer administers your device they might also keep track of what you do with it. Using Private windows, even with Tor, probably won't stop them from knowing which sites you've visited. Someone else with access to your device could also have installed software which monitors your activity, and Brave can’t protect you from this either.
Re: Tell HN: Skype on web does not support Firefox
#107The worst is that just changing the user agent makes everything work.
Facebook "kind of" works in Firefox, but there's loads of subtle breakage: for example pasting anything in Messenger (with ctrl+v) breaks the entire site for me. Middle-click kind-of but kind-of-doesn't work, depending on planetary alignments or some such :-/
This is what I got...
https://www.facebook.com/i.valentin.maxim/videos/10219098431...
Re: Tell HN: Skype on web does not support Firefox
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s a larger problem since Safari has a larger userbase. Mozilla is generally at 5% Safari has been at 7-8%. Collectively, Microsoft is fine with losing potentially 12%
Yeah but to support safari, you need a way to test your web application with it. The only way to do that is to buy a Mac. That's why a lot of sites don't support it.
That’s actually incorrect. I used Browserstack for testing our web apps. Why buy a Mac when you could basically rent one for your browser testing. We script it out and test out pre-prod web apps.
Re: Tell HN: Skype on web does not support Firefox
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> For each browser, we had to add support in our standalone plugin, that was (and still is) required to install for audio/video calls Wait Chrome doesn't need it right? I think the issue here is a codec no? There's even people that have hangouts working in pidgin because it just uses webrtc. I was trying to debug potential webrtc issues with skype web for pidgin. It's one thing to say we wanted to do this and that b…
I enjoyed using Skype for a short period - when Microsoft integrated it with the SMS app on Windows Phone. Notifications delivered timely, chatting was a breeze - none of the processor, & ram heavy lag Skype's known for. After they broke that, I went back to the normal skype. I stopped using Skype because it framed me and my pals as assholes. I'd send messages and it wouldn't deliver but make me think it did. I'd the…
Same experience here. My friends and I for the past 10+ years have tried to avoid Skype wherever possible and generally barely used it unless other forms of videoconferencing failed us too. It's almost a running joke with us that any attempt to use Skype will only result in frustration and disappointment, and all calls are prefaced with a standard "hold on, Skype is fucking up, give me a few minutes."
Along with Gchat it's just one of the ultimate digital product failures of our time. What should have been miles ahead of any competitor and cornered the market, instead became something users vehemently hated.
Re: Tell HN: Skype on web does not support Firefox
#110Original Skype for Web developer here. I was part of the launch team who built the first version for this product in 2014[1]. Back then we supported Chrome, IE 9+, Safari and Firefox. Already we had internal debates to support Opera, but the decision was to focus on the largest browsers. For each browser, we had to add support in our standalone plugin, that was (and still is) required to install for audio/video calls…
Is it true that Microsoft revamped Skype in order to comply with law enforcement wiretaps and log everything for subpeonas?