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Re: Ha-ha wall

#102
post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did not find the comment patronizing. Assuming bad intent on the part of other commentators is ALSO not in the HN spirit.

How is it not patronising?! The person is telling me that they disagree with my viewpoint - and rather than then explaining why they disagree, they decide to explain to me that I can edit Wikipedia! To me, that is patronising. While their language is mild and friendly, their message is utterly patronising.

The comment reads:

> you could go find better examples (with a free license) or take your own and add them to the article.

That

> they decide to explain to me that I can edit Wikipedia!

is simply untrue. Had that been the case, I’m sure everyone would agree it was patronising.

However it does not say "you can edit Wikipedia," more like "if you think there is a problem, you are free to fix the problem."

Indeed English can be ambiguous, but I do not think that can be interpreted as patronizing.

Re: Ha-ha wall

#103

"The personal injury team at Penningtons Manches LLP has successfully negotiated a settlement of over £10,000 for a client who was injured during a wedding at a prestigious county manor house. The claimant attended the wedding with her partner in September 2014. They decided to leave the celebrations at around 11:30pm and make their way back to their on-site accommodation. The claimant was required to walk across the…

In a similar case:

> The presiding QC judge, Alastair Campbell, deemed a ha-ha wall to be outside the scope of the law regarding obvious dangers, such as cliffs or canals, where an occupier is not required to take precautions against a person being injured. This was due to it being an unusual man-made feature that the public would be very much unaware of, especially across a wide lawn.

which I find an odd decision. I didn't know what they were called (so I followed the link curiously) but certainly I'd expect one at a house such as that. Unusual for the average dwelling, sure, but not 'across a wide lawn' or at a property with a wide lawn for it to be across.

Re: Ha-ha wall

#104
post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it not patronising?! The person is telling me that they disagree with my viewpoint - and rather than then explaining why they disagree, they decide to explain to me that I can edit Wikipedia! To me, that is patronising. While their language is mild and friendly, their message is utterly patronising.

> To me, that is patronising. To me, that is not patronizing. Just like your original comment about the photos and the original reply, this is all subjective . That you chose to take offense to subjective, measured comments is something you may want to spend time considering.

I disagree, but regardless, this sounds more like a comment for Reddit instead of HN. Better yet, rather than criticising my interpretation, you could go find examples of better comments and enjoy reading them at your leisure. Or you could even come up with your own and add them to the HN page. Contributing to HN is quite fun and not enough people do it. You do need to make an account, but it's free and only takes a sec. -- Sound familiar? Do you feel patronised at all?

Re: Ha-ha wall

#106
It's the foundational design of Facebook.com and other walled garden social media sites.

#SocialMediaReformation #TearDownTheWalledGardens

Re: Ha-ha wall

#107
post #27

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The ancient world’s dark pattern.

Yes, likely the inventors' ancestors now work for Facebook or EA.

If the inventors were from the ancient world, then to have ancestors of theirs working at Facebook is the bomb, dude!

Re: Ha-ha wall

#108
As a French, I have never heard about this name. The article mentions the Château de Meudon, which I know reasonably well (I took the aerial views linked to on the wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Meudon): "ha ha" isn't found on that page, and I can't think of an example of such a construction in the domain.

Isn't this a term attributed to the French but exclusively used in English...?

Re: Ha-ha wall

#110
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although it serves something of a similar purpose, a moat interrupts the view and usually doesn’t slope on one side only.

> a moat interrupts the view No, it doesn't: it's just a ditch. (But it's not very effective as a defensive element if not combined with a wall).

Skimming through the first hundred or so hits on “moat” on images.google.com shows that pretty much every single one does in fact interrupt the view.

So at the very least, keeping a clean view isn’t a fundamental property of moats. But keeping a clean view is the raison d’etre for haha’s. In fact that’s how they get their name.

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