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Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by walshemj » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:45 PM UTC

iratewizard wrote: post #48

Zombieball wrote: post #43

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Do a lot of first year computer science students get paid $75k/year? I know internships can easily earn that but my understanding is they go to 4th year students.

A lot of first year cs students have under a year of experience and can only list python, Java and possibly C++ under proficiencies. What's more sad is when you try hiring at a job fair and 300 4th year / master's students also only have python/Java/C++ with no side projects.

Would not be definition a 1st year CAstudent have no professional experience unless they are a late entry.

CS isn't a vocational course.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by walshemj » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:46 PM UTC

cosmodisk wrote: post #99

godelmachine wrote: post #64

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At the age of 18!

And why not? A friend of mine called the local IT company enquiring about the position. He told them that he's got experience with x,y,z technologies and can do a,b,c.The guy from the company was so excited( it's a small town with a very limited pool of candidates) that he wanted to get him in for an interview. Before confirming the date, he asked my friend: what's your education? To which,my friend replied: I'll sta…

Depends on what the labour laws are like in your friends state.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by objectivetruth » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:47 PM UTC

yholio wrote: post #90

i80and wrote: post #86

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Listing their pronouns prevents candidates from being misgendered while hiring staff discuss them. Makes sense to me.

Imagine trying to create a pronouns dopdown into some employer form. You either fix the list, and inevitably be accused of lack of gender sensitivity when a new pronoun starts to be used; or leave it free form, and run the risk of some candidates entering "their magnificence, Klingon commander" as their preferred pronoun.

What exactly is the risk in the second case? That people can choose how to identify themselves? If prospective employees are filling out the form, that's up to them to take it seriously or not.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by walshemj » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:48 PM UTC

codysan wrote: post #27

gopalakrishnans wrote: post #9

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In India, I remember submitting a passport size photograph with all the resumes I submitted during college/campus interviews. When I moved to US, I realized that was not a requirement.

Is this for security or something? There are listings on Craigslist that once you express interest in, they request photos of you. I always just assume these are fucked up or scams.

Its a scam no job listing on craigslist need a photo - well unless your recruiting for hookers I suppose.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by greenhatman » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:49 PM UTC

cosmodisk wrote: post #39

Pay attention to the $15K salary he wants- that's about $75K in today's money. Not much has changed,even though companies nowadays make many tons more money from the dev work...

So he was earning 75k at age 18, and was looking for his next increase.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by wdr1 » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:50 PM UTC

Crazy to look back & realize it used to be normal to not just note on your resume if you're married or not, but also your height & weight.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by sidlls » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:52 PM UTC

a1pulley wrote: post #80

cosmodisk wrote: post #41

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Any success getting a job after mentioning it?

I mentioned my newborn in all of my job interviews because I didn't want any surprises on either side of the table. I interviewed at six places and got five offers - two at FANGs, three at unicorns. I don't think there's a culture of discrimination against young fathers at large companies, and I don't think it's necessarily bad if there is at early-stage, high-growth start ups.

Why is it not necessarily bad at "early-stage, high-growth start ups?" Some things we regulate are appropriate to carve out exceptions for based on the size of a company, but why is this one?

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by dan-robertson » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:53 PM UTC

codeulike wrote: post #49

agumonkey wrote: post #30

Pretty nostalgic seeing a pre MS giant resume from Gates. Also .. look at how simple a resume is. Raw ascii text, few paragraphs .. done. #dubugging

Raw ascii text It was typed on a manual typewriter - you can tell by the weight of the punctuation.

Why is the punctuation so heavy? Would it be too delicate otherwise or is it just that the area is smaller so the pressure is higher when the key is struck?

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by ycombinete » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:53 PM UTC

filoleg wrote: post #91

cosmodisk wrote: post #41

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Any success getting a job after mentioning it?

Not OP, but i dont think they would have an issue getting hired at any good tech company worth working for because of that. As an anecdote, last year we hired a woman who outright told us she would like to start working next month, but then would immediately need to take 4-6 months off for a paid parental leave, as she was due somewhat soon (i forgot whether we provide 4 or 6 months; i think it is 6, but i dont remem…

That makes sense really, I’m sure smaller businesses have a harder time with people not working for long periods

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by gabcoh » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:54 PM UTC

magerleagues wrote: post #65

Reading this makes me want to find a good biography of Gates or the story of how Microsoft came to be. Any suggestions?

In Malcom Gladwell’s Outliers he has a section where he discusses Bill Gates’ early life and the lives of a few other software luminaries. Having read that it is not surprising at all to see him taking such advanced classes as only a freshman in college.