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Japan approves first human-animal embryo experiments

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Re: Japan approves first human-animal embryo experiments

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to the article, these experiments have already been done in the US before.

Not these experiments, similar experiments.

Pronoun ambiguity strikes again. Yes, that’s what I was referring to, human-animal embryonic experimentation.

Re: Japan approves first human-animal embryo experiments

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The moral is that embryos deserve the same rights as people, so you’re really just killing one person to save another

No it is not. Viability matters here. I realize you see that differently. Realize others will ALWAYS differ on this. ALWAYS. Frankly, this will absolutely be done. There probably will be wars over it too. And it still will be done. And then it will be done sans an embryo, using stems. Right now, powerful, wealthy people are paying full attention. The one thing they cannot buy will end up for sale. More time. Buckle u…

He's not saying the idea is accurate, he's simply stating the idea. No need to argue unless you don't think he's representing the viewpoint accurately.

Re: Japan approves first human-animal embryo experiments

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Yeah America has all the moral debates about genetics and experiments with embryos. But the bottom line is other countries are going to move forward no matter what America does.

The problem with this is that America has a lot of money and brainpower behind it, so it sitting on the sideline inevitably slows down progress.

Re: Japan approves first human-animal embryo experiments

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grow human organs inside rats and? how does that work? i don't understand. meanwhile we are entering the sixt mass extinction event caused by a massive climate change. what good is this technology when you have failing crops, extreme weather, no electricity and mass immigration at your doorstep?

Is there this false notion floating out there somewhere that "science" is a universal resource and paying "science" to one thing inhibits our ability to understand another thing?

Re: Japan approves first human-animal embryo experiments

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post #6

Yeah America has all the moral debates about genetics and experiments with embryos. But the bottom line is other countries are going to move forward no matter what America does.

While I disagree with the US's stance, ignoring your morals because other countries are doing something would be a race to the bottom.

And every person arguing this is going to use this tech to save their kid regardless of their current moral position

Re: Japan approves first human-animal embryo experiments

#109

I hoped technology would reduce animal exploitation. It does in some areas, like cell farming to create food without animals. And synthetic models for pharmaceutical research. Maybe this branch of research can evolve to eliminate animals as well.

There will still exist a fascinating dichotomy, up until we can predict result without either simulation or animal models. An ideal engineered organism would be a delightfully weird homunculus, and a sufficiently advanced simulation could be deemed to be a living creature too.

Perhaps it is best to make sure that lab technicians feel a great deal of empathy for the animals they work with.

Re: Japan approves first human-animal embryo experiments

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post #6

Yeah America has all the moral debates about genetics and experiments with embryos. But the bottom line is other countries are going to move forward no matter what America does.

While I disagree with the US's stance, ignoring your morals because other countries are doing something would be a race to the bottom.

Acknowledging they have different moral doesn't mean you have to agree with it. Just like them you should do what you think is right.
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