Evolutionary gene loss may explain why only humans are prone to heart attack

Post by glastra » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 4:25 PM UTC

smolder wrote: post #96

glastra wrote: post #93

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I guess he was extrapolating and referring to the idea that carbohydrate consumption is the root cause of most, if not all, modern diseases. An idea held by many, including me.

To say even most modern disease has to do with carb intake ignores all the diseases that clearly aren't even diet related. You could probably get away with saying most diet related diseases are related to carb intake. I'd say that's a stretch, too, though I do suspect, as you do, that the type and quantity of carbs people eat is underappreciated as a factor in many illnesses.

Post by smolder » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 4:43 PM UTC

glastra wrote: post #101

smolder wrote: post #96

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To say even most modern disease has to do with carb intake ignores all the diseases that clearly aren't even diet related. You could probably get away with saying most diet related diseases are related to carb intake. I'd say that's a stretch, too, though I do suspect, as you do, that the type and quantity of carbs people eat is underappreciated as a factor in many illnesses.

Yes, absolutely. Some diseases are due to pathogens and such. But those should not be "modern", in the sense that said pathogens might not be exactly new. Maybe you could say anthropogenic diseases such as lung cancer from smoking or esophagus cancer from drinking are modern, though. What I meant by "modern diseases" in my comment is a group of non-communicable diseases or so-called "diseases of civilization". "Diet-…

Post by waserwill » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 5:21 PM UTC

CamperBob2 wrote: post #77

cc439 wrote: post #75

Interesting, I was always under the impression that chipmunks were susceptible to heart attacks. I can't remember where I read it and I can't find a current source but you are apparently not supposed to harass chipmunks because they can experience stress induced heart attacks when threatened/chased. I've also seen potential evidence for this when my cat chased one around a parking lot only for it to collapse after sp…

Rabbits, too. The whole premise behind this headline seems bogus.

Post by _0w8t » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 5:48 PM UTC

glastra wrote: post #93

DennisP wrote: post #89

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I doubt anyone would think you a heretic for believing that about pure carnivores like cats.

I guess he was extrapolating and referring to the idea that carbohydrate consumption is the root cause of most, if not all, modern diseases. An idea held by many, including me.

Post by taurath » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 6:07 PM UTC

kqr wrote: post #43

taurath wrote: post #21

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I mean, this was when amputation and leeches was the pinnacle of medicinal triage. Life expectancy hit 49 in 1900 - for most of the 1800s it was below 40, a fact that still blows my mind today.

...are you aware that most of that low life expectancy was caused by infant and child mortality? Once you lived past 15, you were expected to stick around at least to your 60s, if not more. So yes, modern medicine is a Herculean effort in many ways. One of them is that it saves so many of our otherwise very frail and helpless children.