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Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by emilsedgh »

ilaksh wrote: post #59
emilsedgh wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Iranian living in the U.S. here. During Obama it was: We will choke you to death unless you give up your nuclear ambitions. Now it is: We will choke you to death unless you shoot yourself in the head. U.S. is bullying Iran right now and people are starving to death. All because of a partisan issue. Unbelievable.

Do you think it is a partisan issue or do you think it has to do with long term military strategy such as the Strait and fossil fuels? My guess would be they essentially want total military submission, something like a base inside the country.

Well I don't really have any insider knowledge but it seems that Republicans didn't want Democrats to have this win therefore didn't pass it in the congress and there was a ton of propaganda against it.

Trump, riding on the wave of propaganda, just called it the worst deal ever only to have something to criticize Obama's foreign policy over.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by sebow »

_7fvc wrote: post #95

I may hold an extreme position here. I believe sanction is always a bad idea. I grew up in a formerly sanctioned country, Vietnam. Life was rough for normal people. They become increasingly attached to their sanctioned regime. The US sanctioned Vietnam mainly because it took down a genocidal regime. Sanction is not an effective tool for change. The right way to move the world forward is to lead by example, to become…

Sanctions may be harsh but they're effective.That always has been the case and will (always sounds presumptious) be for a long time. It's sad but it is a reality.Thankfully if we look at history it is less and less applied(as conflicts are declining, in general)

What i would say that is that sanctions themselves do not have the mission of "change", they're only meant to enable change.Leading by example is indeed the right(and kind of the only) way of change.But to reach that without straight-up violence is very hard and slow.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by throwaway-klsdj »

milemi wrote: post #98

I can’t think of a historical example of economic sanctions even moving the situation toward the putative goal of regime change in the target country, let alone achieving that goal. I’ve lived under UN sanctions imposed on Serbia under Milosevic regime during the nineties. Two things happen: 1) people in the regime leadership don’t suffer 2) the little people who do suffer feel attacked and rally around the leader. P…

I'm not sure the entire plan is to get the country to do what you want. It's also about not supporting your enemies. Why send them raw materials, hardware, software that they will then use to fight against you? This seems to have worked for the countries you listed and a few more with the possible exception of Iran. They are much weaker than they could have been and are therefore not as significant a threat.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by miracle2k »

mrdodge wrote: post #66
RidingPegasus wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where do people get these talking points from? Intelligence chiefs have testified in front of congress that Iran was following through with it's end of the deal. The US then unilaterally decided to tear up the treaty and put in economic sanctions based on nothing. It's almost as if they want Iran to build nuclear weapons. It's also putting pressure on Europe to pull out of banking and business ties that were built af…

You didn't address this idea that nuclear power does not require Iran to enrich uranium. The deal seems faulty if they can still enrich uranium, regardless if they were following it or not.

Every NPT-signatory has the right to enrich.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by milemi »

viburnum wrote: post #99
milemi wrote: post #98

I can’t think of a historical example of economic sanctions even moving the situation toward the putative goal of regime change in the target country, let alone achieving that goal. I’ve lived under UN sanctions imposed on Serbia under Milosevic regime during the nineties. Two things happen: 1) people in the regime leadership don’t suffer 2) the little people who do suffer feel attacked and rally around the leader. P…

South Africa is seen as a success.

That’s a good example, albeit a special one where the regime was not accepted as being of the people by a large majority of the population.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by lonelappde »

mattigames wrote: post #41
smnrchrds wrote: post #6

Dear devs, Please stop using Google Cloud Platform to host your projects. GCP blocks Iran, so by hosting any part of the app on GCP, your apps become impossible to access from Iran. Azure and AWS do not do this. This form of blocking is exclusive to GCP. After the switch to GCP, Iranians lost access to gitlab. Firefox Monitor is blocked in Iran for the same reason. The list goes on and on. I don't believe Mozilla tea…

Or... maybe developers should not play the games the Iran goverment want them to play and every effort should go towards throwing the current dictatorship not to stop using what they want us to stop using?

Why don't you overthrow the Iranian dictatorship?

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

jstewartmobile wrote: post #55
NikolaeVarius wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dont understand this type of reply where just because a specific subtopic of a news story isnt being screamed just as loudly as every other top breaking headline, its the western media being silent on the issue. Plenty of discussion has been had on mainstream media about the effects and.effectiveness of sanctions on basic goods https://abcnews.go.com/International/us-sanctions-hit-iran-r... https://www.cnbc.com/201…

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> Needle in a haystack

As a practical matter, Tehran’s domestic governance is irrelevant to most Western readers. My FT, WSJ or Bloomberg subscriptions tend to touch on it about twice a year. Given I have zero influence over the situation, that plenty for me.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by mattigames »

lonelappde wrote: post #106
mattigames wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or... maybe developers should not play the games the Iran goverment want them to play and every effort should go towards throwing the current dictatorship not to stop using what they want us to stop using?

Why don't you overthrow the Iranian dictatorship?

Because I don't live in Iran, if there is ever a solution to the Iran tiranny it must happen from the inside and from its own people.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by askmike »

throwaway-klsdj wrote: post #96
throwaway-ba9 wrote: post #74

Throwaway account for obvious reasons. I'm one of those operations people who have been required by a legal department to block access from sanctioned countries - I've literally written the HTTP rules to deny access to folks like the original author. I think about how the infrastructure I write and operate creates situations like these, and while I know I'm partly to blame, it's worth highlighting that this is a by-p…

This is a good point. To add a slightly different perspective, I work for a US company that routinely has to deal with cyber attacks by Iranian professionals, probably government sponsored. I think most people don't realize how incredibly serious this is, and how basically there is already a global war being fought. And the nations with the most freedom have the most to lose. Certainly most of the people in Iran are…

Just wondering but:

> I work for a US company that routinely has to deal with cyber attacks by Iranian professionals, probably government sponsored.

The full article is about services blocking IPs from Iran (and how it's effecting him as a dev). I don't see what cyber attacks have to do with anything? Or do you think these IP bans are a defense against cyber attacks?

All countries do cyber attacks, most countries in the EU have been infiltrated by the NSA and friends. How is that related to companies geo fencing entire countries?

> If the government in power over you is in conflict with others, and/or in conflict with it's own people, it's going to impact you. If you want your life to be better, look for ways to improve your government.

Not to get all political but I think it's pretty clear that the US is the only western country not liking Iran, and they use their influence to have the whole world obey US sanctions. You expecting OP to raise against their government? I say odds of succeeding are slimmer than storming Area 51.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by varjag »

pizza wrote: post #43

Effects of sanctions totally slide off the elite and shit all over the poorest members of a society.

There have been a growing trend of personal sanctions targeting power actors and their affiliates. Most of them in form of Magnitsky laws, championed by Bill Browder. They hurt enough that Putin had to bring up punishing Browder at Helsinki summit with Trump.
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