How I tried to compete with YouTube and Google with Livevideo.com

Post by mysticlabs » Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 1:33 AM UTC

blueboo wrote: post #16

yongjik wrote: post #5

> At one point, I believe it was over 74 million and after a Google search change, that number went down to less than 12 million overnight, so all the backlinks, all the websites that were linking to my site, that boosted my rank, that gave my site a good search cloud. This was all organic. I did not use tricks or anything deceptive. This was all organic traffic. These were all organic backlinks and all of a sudden G…

Best practices are being followed now; but a large sales team at its worst more than ten years ago might be caught out in bad behavior. Less plausible is the scenario of failing as a result of ad-pay for search-play. If the equation is proven out, then he, a rational and effective founder, would’ve paid!—And his site would’ve played another day. Or are we supposed to read an implication that it was worth burning the…

Post by mysticlabs » Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 1:41 AM UTC

mooman219 wrote: post #8

> It wasn’t it wasn’t anything nefarious. > you know, adult content and there’s child porn on some of your properties and whatever > [getting] sued by the major, by the major record companies for [hosting lyrics] > Today we get sued by the record companies I'm not well read on the situation, but it sounds like they had serious moderation problems. It looks like they had adult content on their popular video's page occ…

Post by tptacek » Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 1:44 AM UTC

mysticlabs wrote: post #103

tptacek wrote: post #59

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Just to be clear, and without engaging in any other part of your comment: the AdSense guidelines forbid ads on pages that link to or otherwise promote adult content, which this site surely did.

There was absolutely no pornographic content on LiveVideo.com itself. Nor was it ever intended for LiveVideo to have adult content. We created the family filters for mature content. However, sexy content is just simply what people started uploading. We deleted anything that was even remotely pornographic, but there was still some sexy content as there is still plenty of sexy content on YouTube right now. We did not p…

Post by thayne » Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 1:50 AM UTC

privateSFacct wrote: post #14

This article should say - you can't compete with google using google. The "final blow" was adsense being cutoff. Their revenue model to compete with google was ... adsense. OK. Their traffic model was google search. Ok. Between the lines it sounds like some aggressive SEO, and maybe the network click bounce thing (you click on one video, and then it clicks through to another site etc). Be curious what their content m…

Post by korzun » Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 2:33 AM UTC

nemothekid wrote: post #80

rubberstock wrote: post #64

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Why don't you think that the hardest part is acquiring the viewers? At least nowadays, network traffic is cheap. You get 1TB for 1 euro [0]. You need 22 Mbps for 1080HD [1], which means you can stream 100 hours for 1 euro. If you stream 5min clips, that's 1200 clips for 1 euro. There should be enough ad networks that offer 2 euro CPM to make a profit. On the other hand, how can they make a profit if nobody is discove…

> At least nowadays, network traffic is cheap. But it's not. Your example is contrived, as Hetzner likely doesn't expect you to stream a 100 hours of 1080p HD content to 100 people simultaneously . Your users would have a laughably bad experience at scale. On a single box, it's unlikely you could max out your throughput - you could at most support 45 users on a single Hetzner node (1080p @ 22Mbps on a Gigabit connect…