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Tether loaned USDT to investors and illegally traded in New York, says NYAG

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#101

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Gemini and Coinbase are on the forefront of legitimizing cryptos. They go out of their way to cooperate with American authorities, which is a good move for their business model. Contrast this with a crypto exchange based outside of the US that would loose their clientele if they worked with the American government in any way. Why you ask? Do research about Americans trying to open bank accounts in Europe. Basically u…

Most crypto is traded outside of the US though; most of the volume is on Binance and Bitmex. In this sense they cut themselves off from many customers. The advantage of their business model seems to be that with less competition from other US-law-abiding exchanges (because there are so few of them), they can charge much higher fees: Coinbase fees are higher than most large non-US exchanges, and Gemini fees are insane…

>Gemini fees are insane, something like 1% per trade

Seems to be 0.25%/0.35%

https://gemini.com/activetrader-fee-schedule/

Re: Tether loaned USDT to investors and illegally traded in New York, says NYAG

#102

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Why would bitcoin spike?

Since it's very difficult to convert USDT into real USD, if people were desperately trying to exit their Tether positions, they'd likely do it by changing for other cryptocurrencies like bitcoin.

>Since it's very difficult to convert USDT into real USD,

The irony in this sentence should given even the most hardened USDT fan something to think about

Re: Tether loaned USDT to investors and illegally traded in New York, says NYAG

#103

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Gemini and Coinbase are on the forefront of legitimizing cryptos. They go out of their way to cooperate with American authorities, which is a good move for their business model. Contrast this with a crypto exchange based outside of the US that would loose their clientele if they worked with the American government in any way. Why you ask? Do research about Americans trying to open bank accounts in Europe. Basically u…

Most crypto is traded outside of the US though; most of the volume is on Binance and Bitmex. In this sense they cut themselves off from many customers. The advantage of their business model seems to be that with less competition from other US-law-abiding exchanges (because there are so few of them), they can charge much higher fees: Coinbase fees are higher than most large non-US exchanges, and Gemini fees are insane…

> Most crypto is traded outside of the US though; most of the volume is on Binance and Bitmex.

This doesn't stop US persons from trading on the exchanges, and self reporting accurately to the IRS/SEC, which may do.

Re: Tether loaned USDT to investors and illegally traded in New York, says NYAG

#104
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Do you have any proof? The US authorities have literally shown in court they have vast sums backing tethers. Bifinex itself is a money printing machine. I'd love to take some serious 5 figure wagers with the people who say this stuff. Because they've been saying it for years now and have been consistently proven wrong.

There is no chance it is 100% backed like they claim. I would happily wager $10000 on it if a framework for such a wager existed.

You could open up a prediction market on Augur.

Re: Tether loaned USDT to investors and illegally traded in New York, says NYAG

#105

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> In the US trading crypto to crypto has tax liabilities. Or, more accurately, just because you record the ownership of an asset on a blockchain doesn't mean you're allowed to violate the law.

I believe it's not as clear cut as that. I believe that in many jurisdictions there are various rules that allow trading within certain assets classes to not be treated as a taxable event for capital gains purposes unless you trade outside the class back to a regular currency. The taxable event can occur only when you realise the profit or loss. Whether this is the case with crypto currencies is all dependent on how…

It's never been that way in the US. Sale of any cryptocurrency for any other or any asset or even a cup of coffee has been a taxable event since the beginning.

You realize a profit or loss every time you transact, and that's a taxable event. It's not tied to whether or not the transaction is into or out of fiat currency.

Re: Tether loaned USDT to investors and illegally traded in New York, says NYAG

#106

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Most crypto is traded outside of the US though; most of the volume is on Binance and Bitmex. In this sense they cut themselves off from many customers. The advantage of their business model seems to be that with less competition from other US-law-abiding exchanges (because there are so few of them), they can charge much higher fees: Coinbase fees are higher than most large non-US exchanges, and Gemini fees are insane…

> Most crypto is traded outside of the US though; most of the volume is on Binance and Bitmex. This doesn't stop US persons from trading on the exchanges, and self reporting accurately to the IRS/SEC, which may do.

Actually most don't. The IRS released statistics a couple of years ago, it seems like the number was low 3 figures who actually reported though I don't remember exactly.

Re: Tether loaned USDT to investors and illegally traded in New York, says NYAG

#107
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Since it's very difficult to convert USDT into real USD, if people were desperately trying to exit their Tether positions, they'd likely do it by changing for other cryptocurrencies like bitcoin.

>Since it's very difficult to convert USDT into real USD, The irony in this sentence should given even the most hardened USDT fan something to think about

Also it's not "very difficult", it's nearly (if not exactly) impossible.

Re: Tether loaned USDT to investors and illegally traded in New York, says NYAG

#108
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The majority of markets don't care if it is 100% backed, like they don't care when their bank does fractional reserve. They care about whether the USD peg will last within their timespan they plan to use tether. One of the most common advertised applications for tether is arbitrage between exchanges. There it hardly matters whether tether has 100% reserves, what matters if the peg stays within the days that you are d…

>The majority of markets don't care if it is 100% backed, like they don't care when their bank does fractional reserve. Banks are insured, and in general they haven't failed for the last like 100+ years. I do think what you are saying about usdt is mostly true though, however if(when) usdt does fail the entire market will take a dive off a cliff. So even if your assets are in other cryptos it still represents a syste…

> Banks are insured, and in general they haven't failed for the last like 100+ years.

Thanks to massive bailouts you mean?

Re: Tether loaned USDT to investors and illegally traded in New York, says NYAG

#109
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Well, don't know for these stablecoins but to me the "normal crypto" meaning bitcoin is very easy to understand and use. It is like commodity nowadays - it is up to the user whether to use it for scetchy things or for normal things.

ROTFLMAO Are you serious? You need to establish presence at an exchange meaning you need to scan and send your ID to a company which more likely than not -- does QuadrigaCX ring a bell -- is run by scammers. Then you need to buy bitcoin and store it somewhere... and then send it to someone. The sending costs an unknown amount, takes an unknwon amount of time, the receiver gets something but none of you can predict ho…

>The sending costs an unknown amount, takes an unknwon amount of time,

This is a downright lie.

>the receiver gets something but none of you can predict how much that is actually worth by the time they receive it

This is just misleading, the recipient gains control of the transmitted bitcoin almost instantly. Confirmation delays are known.

Re: Tether loaned USDT to investors and illegally traded in New York, says NYAG

#110
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I am curious. Has anyone actually tried to redeem a tether? https://tether.to/fees/ It sure seems like they would like to just have people trade them on an exchange.

So best case scenario you can get $0.996 per USDT, and yet people still choose to buy them for $1 on exchanges...
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