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Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by afandian »

xattt wrote: post #85

I sardonically worry that they will offer a touch screen keyboard instead.

The Lenovo Yoga Book is a hinged tablet. Bottom half is a glass surface with both capacitive touch and Wacom digitiser. It comes with a Wacom pen, which has a swappable ballpoint pen nib so you can draw on paper and have it digitised. There's a backlit silkscreen-type stencil that shines through a (permanent) keyboard layout. And touchpad. So, it's touch-screen typing on a fixed keyboard layout. And you can swap between pen-digitiser and keyboard mode. A crazy set of features. I was very excited to buy it.

They keyboard is very hard to use. The pen is laggy and there's no really useful Android software. I use it exclusively for watching videos. Go figure.

Still, I'm glad they tried it. There's too much device monoculture IMHO.

https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/tablets/android-tablets/yoga-ta...

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by qrbLPHiKpiux »

candyman wrote: post #99

I hope this is true. I was about to replace my 2013 MBP with a used 2015 or shift over to Windows. (The Lenovo Carbon has a great keyboard.) I can wait until next year to see if Apple really does the right thing but if not - it's Lenovo for the new machine.

The only reason I passed on the carbon is because of the screen. Apple has spoiled me with their glass screens.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by andrew_ »

EnderMB wrote: post #95

I'd be interested in MBP sales figures from the batch of MacBooks with the new keyboard/touch bar. From my perspective, despite a whole host of issues, very few people seem to have actually moved away from Mac's. I hear a lot of grumbling, but you only need to look at this thread to see people claim that the MBP is the best professional-grade laptop available today, when the issues with the OS, the keyboard, and the…

I stick with it because, in only my very subjective and personal view, there's no other OS available that is as streamlined as Mac OS. I try all modern offerings just about once a year, and have yet to find anything better for myself. It's their one saving grace in my view.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by kevinmchugh »

EnderMB wrote: post #95

I'd be interested in MBP sales figures from the batch of MacBooks with the new keyboard/touch bar. From my perspective, despite a whole host of issues, very few people seem to have actually moved away from Mac's. I hear a lot of grumbling, but you only need to look at this thread to see people claim that the MBP is the best professional-grade laptop available today, when the issues with the OS, the keyboard, and the…

There's been room in the budget for me to upgrade my work MBP for about 6 months. I haven't considered it. I've got the old keyboard and I've seen what my coworkers have to deal with.

I've also convinced my wife to wait on replacing her decade-old MacBook.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by josefrichter »

the keyboard is actually awesome, when it works properly. I really love it. The short key travel is great, and using older macbook keyboards now feels like going back to a typewriter.

However, I am also one of those who's taking his 2 months old macbook to repair shop, coz one of the keys just stops clicking and becomes rubbery.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by spookybones »

dominostars wrote: post #98
JDiculous wrote: post #36

Great, the butterfly keys were an enormous downgrade in terms of comfort, and one of the reasons I sold my 2017 Macbook Pro. But will they still keep that awful touchbar where the Esc and F1-12 are supposed to be? Then I'll still be passing.

I’m still using my 2012 MacBook Pro desperately hoping they release a new 15-inch line without the Touch Bar. I had bought a MacBook pro with the Touch Bar and after a few weeks I just hated it more and more and returned it. I’m still mad about them ditching MagSafe but I can get over that at least.

In the same position. Though I actually don’t like MagSafe that much. It falls out if you’re working on your lap, and the light is inconvenient if you charge at night. I much prefer the sound to notify charging.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by msravi »

EnderMB wrote: post #95

I'd be interested in MBP sales figures from the batch of MacBooks with the new keyboard/touch bar. From my perspective, despite a whole host of issues, very few people seem to have actually moved away from Mac's. I hear a lot of grumbling, but you only need to look at this thread to see people claim that the MBP is the best professional-grade laptop available today, when the issues with the OS, the keyboard, and the…

I've moved from a MacBook Pro to a Lenovo IdeaPad running Linux Mint and have not looked back. While it was more for cost reasons than any dissatisfaction with Mac features, I haven't really missed anything from the Mac at all.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by abbe_k »

yomly wrote: post #81
kossae wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s wrong with the 2015? That’s the last good version of the keyboard IMO.

Funny there's a conversation about the ThinkPad 2015 going on - my x240 was the generation that had the buttonless trackpad (which screwed the trackpoint). Credit to Lenovo, they backtracked within one generation, but I am not nearly so rich as to be able to change laptops that often so it was a costly design "innovation" to me on their end!

You can buy a trackpad with buttons to replace it. It is compatible with the X250 trackpad I think. Or was this only the case with T440s and T450s?

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by dominostars »

worldsayshi wrote: post #79
throwaway9d0291 wrote: post #39

Now just get rid of the touchbar and I'll consider using a Mac again.

Have you actually used it though? I find it kind of useful. Not super useful but at least slightly more useful than gimmicky.

Not the OP but yes I’ve used it and yes I hated it. 95% gimmick and frustrating as hell to use. Had to return my laptop and I’ve been desperately waiting for them to remove it for a 15-inch pro.
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