Exploring alternative funding models for the web • Hacker News Board

Re: Exploring alternative funding models for the web

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Post by SergeAx » Wed, Jul 03, 2019, 8:33 PM UTC

jerrac wrote: post #4

For a long time I've thought that we need a browser based universal tip jar. Some way that lets me read a blog post, and then tip the site with however much I want. 1 cent, 25 cents, 1 dollar, 200 dollars, any amount. From my understanding of things, the biggest thing in the way is that processing payments costs money. The second thing is making sure the money goes where it is supposed to. With services like Scroll,…

Unfortunately, advertisement typically pays to publishers at least one order of magnitude more than subscribers, even with paywalls in place. For example, ARPU of Facebook is way north of one of Netflix.

Re: Exploring alternative funding models for the web

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Post by kdbg » Wed, Jul 03, 2019, 11:04 PM UTC

specialist wrote: post #98

kdbg wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So, here's a thought, Mozilla should create a tip jar non-profit organization. Tipping would be something built into Firefox. If you tip someone, it's sent to the non-profit's bank, and connected to the url. Site owners could then register with the non-profit, in manner similar to Google Webmaster tools, that would let them access the tips they've received. This is kinda what the Basic Attention Token is in the Bra…

The Basic Attention Token notion is inscrutable to me. It's like the corporate sponsored charitable giving campaigns. Why would I give WalMart $1 to forward to Children's Hospital when I could just give Children's Hospital $1 directly? BAT is a bad idea done badly by bad people. Given my track record of predicting winners and losers (eg JavaScript), I can only assume BATs will be hugely successful.

> Why would I give WalMart $1 to forward to Children's Hospital when I could just give Children's Hospital $1 directly?

Perhaps you don't want people knowing who you're donating to, and the third party offers that privacy?

Re: Exploring alternative funding models for the web

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Post by mkr-hn » Wed, Jul 03, 2019, 11:20 PM UTC

specialist wrote: post #98

kdbg wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So, here's a thought, Mozilla should create a tip jar non-profit organization. Tipping would be something built into Firefox. If you tip someone, it's sent to the non-profit's bank, and connected to the url. Site owners could then register with the non-profit, in manner similar to Google Webmaster tools, that would let them access the tips they've received. This is kinda what the Basic Attention Token is in the Bra…

The Basic Attention Token notion is inscrutable to me. It's like the corporate sponsored charitable giving campaigns. Why would I give WalMart $1 to forward to Children's Hospital when I could just give Children's Hospital $1 directly? BAT is a bad idea done badly by bad people. Given my track record of predicting winners and losers (eg JavaScript), I can only assume BATs will be hugely successful.

>> "Given my track record of predicting winners and losers (eg JavaScript), I can only assume BATs will be hugely successful."

They're made by the same person too. That's among the reasons I won't touch it.

Re: Exploring alternative funding models for the web

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Post by gwbas1c » Mon, Jul 08, 2019, 8:38 PM UTC

hombre_fatal wrote: post #54

gwbas1c wrote: post #16

Honestly, I just want a subscription model like Netflix or Google Music: A nominal monthly fee for ad-free access to most content on most major websites.

Great idea, I volunteer to be the entity that gets to collect tolls for content on the internet.

:)

Honestly, I think it would work best when combined with a site like Hacker News.

Imagine if Hacker News had a $10 / month plan that guaranteed that I could read 99% of content on the front page.

Otherwise, I'm just not subscribing to 20 different sites so I can skim 4-5 articles a month.