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ICANN lifts the price cap on .org domains

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Re: ICANN lifts the price cap on .org domains

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>Not to be that guy - but why should the brazilian-peruvian group have gotten it instead? News flash: You're being that guy. They have a far more legitimate claim because they administer the majority of the geological zone known as the Amazon Basin, and have since long before Amazon the company was a twinkle in Bezos' eye? I mean... I'm hoping you were being tongue-in-cheek... Nowadays it seems to be getting more dif…

Notably, it’s not called “the Amazon Basin” to the people who live there (given that English is not their primary language).

You may be talking about the indigenous languages of the region, but the whole region is literally called "Amazonas" in Spanish and Portuguese.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Amazonas

Re: ICANN lifts the price cap on .org domains

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I don't know exact details, but if it works like bitcoin miners can refuse to put renewals in blocks if the fees is not high enough.

In which case you can just wait until there are less transactions waiting to be confirmed, driving the price up (it's a renewal, so you have plenty of time to complete it).

You can't wait to renew, or someone who's willing to pay the price will steal your domain.

Re: ICANN lifts the price cap on .org domains

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In which case you can just wait until there are less transactions waiting to be confirmed, driving the price up (it's a renewal, so you have plenty of time to complete it).

You can't wait to renew, or someone who's willing to pay the price will steal your domain.

I'm pretty sure you have a time period during which you can renew the domain.

Re: ICANN lifts the price cap on .org domains

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The Wayback Machine is great, but it's basically a hack. Archiving shouldn't depend on a single centralized entity occasionally crawling the web and saving chunks of it to its archive (but only what it finds during the crawl, and excluding content with large file sizes, such as videos). It ought to be built into the architecture of the Web, decentralized, immediate, and (at least for small file sizes) on by default.…

> Archiving shouldn't depend on a single centralized entity It doesn't. It's decentralized, with lots of archivists, it's just not federated.

Are there any other Web archives with scope comparable to the Wayback Machine? I have not heard of any. I guess there may be private archives which are not publicly known or accessible.

Re: ICANN lifts the price cap on .org domains

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The whole domain market experience is utter crap. Commoditizing domain names has created such an unbalanced power dynamic between buyers and sellers where the sellers hold all the power. Gatekeeping at it's finest. Contrast this with acquiring a business name through any Department of State/Division of Corporations. I shouldn't have to name my company some contorted bastardization to successfully enter the market.

I actually did a "side project" to fix this about 10 years ago.

Never "released" it; I just wanted to see if it would work. I still think it could.

Imagine being being able to get a copy of a zone file and that file reliably revealing something about what was being served from the associated IP address. Where each name was by the nature of its tld disambiguated from any other name. "Collision-proof" naming. Arguably, it already exists IRL.

As a member of the public I can get a list, or search a database, of trademarks that reveals exactly what type of goods or services each mark ("name") covers. I do not need to submit each name/good/service I am interested in to a gatekeeper advertising company who will try to guess what it is I want based on other people's searches or personal information gathered about me.

OTOH, if, for example, a trademark office started running an authoritative nameserver, serving its own zone with its own descriptive tlds and giving trademark registrants a matching domain name within a class-specific tld, I would not hesistate to add those tlds to the custom root.zone I use.

It stands to reason that a business owner should trust a government entity with some accountability more than it trusts a made-up "authority" like ICANN.

The "organisation of the world's information" should not be controlled by a private company.

Any such company would obviously stand to benefit from the continued disorganisation of information on the web. A lack of organisation that only they have the "expertise" necessary to rectify. The ambiguity of ICANN domain names is one contributor to the ongoing state of disorganisation.

Nor should the control of domain names be entrusted to a private company. They, too, benefit from the ambiguity. The profits from selling (through contractors) dispute resolution services and then new tlds to trademark holders are only possible when the ambiguity continues to exist.

Re: ICANN lifts the price cap on .org domains

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The whole domain market experience is utter crap. Commoditizing domain names has created such an unbalanced power dynamic between buyers and sellers where the sellers hold all the power. Gatekeeping at it's finest. Contrast this with acquiring a business name through any Department of State/Division of Corporations. I shouldn't have to name my company some contorted bastardization to successfully enter the market.

Registering a trademark is generally more expensive than a domain name, and trademarks don't compete on the same namespace and is split depending on industry. The biggest difference to the domain market is that with domain names everyone is clogging the same namespace. If people just spread out based on nationality and industry it would be easy and cheap. To make a direct example, if I talked about Abba here in Swede…

But at the same time, I think we might be a bit to far with the current setup of the web to change this. Not saying it can't be redesigned better, though. I can't see everyone moving to "abba.food.se" or "abba.music.se", especially as domain length is at a serious premium (though my information is old and it's just a correlation, it's the best factual support I could find short-notice for what is commonly known). [0]

There's a fine line between "clogging the namespace" and commoditizing something. I like being able to have my own domain - I can host stuff, run a web site, access services with a friendly name, attach friendly names to my internal IPs, etc. Why should I have to be a legally-registered something-or-other to do that? And if I'm not, why should I have to settle for something three times as long? Most of the pollution is from squatters, who are cancerous to the internet.

[0] http://www.gaebler.com/Domain-Length-Research.htm

Re: ICANN lifts the price cap on .org domains

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The whole decentralize everything! movement seems to overlook DNS. I get that technically the DNS system is decentralized, but in reality, you lease a domain from a random, usually politically charged entity, who can do anything with it, if they wish. We need a real DNS system, one where an individual can request and have a domain for life and which is truly decentralized. Unfortunately none of the attempts - .onion…

DNS is probably one of the most popular subjects of the decentralize everything movement. Not that any of the solutions have really caught on though.

Re: ICANN lifts the price cap on .org domains

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And all six were written by lobbyists for Verisign.

It's a shame you're being downvoted, considering there was a post here last week proving this very fact.

Accusations of shilling are pretty serious, and should include evidence alongside the claim.

Re: ICANN lifts the price cap on .org domains

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I mean if a name is available to use, you can just use it. There's no negotiation, no price barrier, nothing. I think most of my frustration is toward the domain squatting/reselling industry.

Isn't starting a company rather expensive in the USA compared to say in the UK

No.

Re: ICANN lifts the price cap on .org domains

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> How is that different in domain names? If the name is available, you buy it and use it. Because in the absence of price caps the registrar can choose to increase the price on "valuable" domain names (for whatever arbitrary criteria it decides means a domain is "valuable").

All .org and .info domains will be priced the same. Not more valuable ones can be at a higher cost.

Not anymore, that's exactly what the article is about.

> ICANN has agreed to remove price restrictions on .org domain names, letting the domain’s manager, Public Interest Registry, charge as much as it wants for the domains. (It also agreed to let .info manager Afilias charge whatever it wants for .info.)

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